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Tube Drivers Again.

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  • somethingcorporate
    somethingcorporate Posts: 9,449 Forumite
    edited 18 December 2012 at 4:11PM
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    London Dockland Light railways is totally driverless.

    But what about the passengers? will nobody think of the passengers?

    I am sure had thousands perished as a result of having driverless trains on the DLR (or in a number of other metro systems around the world) we'd have heard about it by now.

    It really is only a matter of time and more highly paid these drivers get the quicker we'll see them looking for other work - unfortunately they'll come back to earth when a bump when they realise there is nothing much else highly-paid tube drivers can do that will bring them anywhere near the level of income they currently get.
    Thinking critically since 1996....
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    London Dockland Light railways is totally driverless.

    Quite unnerving the first couple of trips.

    I do find the DLR seems more "jolty" than the tube though. Whether thats the control mechanisms being less linear/progressive or the type of track I don't know.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • I often find the tube to be quite jolty when leaving from a station - I am sure once I remember a driver saying this was because people were leaning against the door or something.
    Thinking critically since 1996....
  • jobdone1
    jobdone1 Posts: 841 Forumite
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    But what about the passengers? will nobody think of the passengers?

    I am sure had thousands perished as a result of having driverless trains on the DLR (or in a number of other metro systems around the world) we'd have heard about it by now.

    It really is only a matter of time and more highly paid these drivers get the quicker we'll see them looking for other work - unfortunately they'll come back to earth when a bump when they realise there is nothing much else highly-paid tube drivers can do that will bring them anywhere near the level of income they currently get.

    O well do away with jobs but still as you earn more i'm sure you can help with your taxes to support those that will rely on benefits as a result.
  • So your argument for keeping people in uncompetitively-priced employment is because otherwise they may need benefits?

    Not a very compelling reason really then is it since TFL is largely funded by public money anyway to the tune of about £3bn a year.
    Thinking critically since 1996....
  • jobdone1
    jobdone1 Posts: 841 Forumite
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    So your argument for keeping people in uncompetitively-priced employment is because otherwise they may need benefits?

    Not a very compelling reason really then is it since TFL is largely funded by public money anyway.

    I am staggered by your responses.
  • Hasbeen
    Hasbeen Posts: 4,404 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    So what are the penalties a driver could suffer if he screwed up (beyond losing his job)?
    If there are none then there is no responsibility.

    Probably same as train guard

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9680110/Railway-guard-jailed-for-five-years-over-death-of-drunken-teenager-who-fell-between-train-and-platform.html
    The world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, but by the weakness of the good. Napoleon
  • You're the one making wilder and wilder reasons for why we should keep such highly paid drivers in post when there will be far cheaper (and just as safe) methods available in the future which are already used widely (including London).

    The reason that losing their jobs may mean they join the benefit queue is a particularly poor response.
    Thinking critically since 1996....
  • jobdone1
    jobdone1 Posts: 841 Forumite
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    You're the one making wilder and wilder reasons for why we should keep such highly paid drivers in post when there will be far cheaper (and just as safe) methods available in the future which are already used widely (including London).

    The reason that losing their jobs may mean they join the benefit queue is a particularly poor response.

    I don't agree with you in any way. What about your employment can that be done by some robot or computer it works both ways.
  • So come up with a counter-argument - don't just say you don't agree for no reason.

    Of course it works both ways and if there is technology to make my job faster, safer or indeed replace me then that's life. Standing still for the sake of posterity is stupid. Plenty of retailers going bust to show what happens when you stand still in a changing world.
    Thinking critically since 1996....
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