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Tube Drivers Again.

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  • jobdone1
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    It's a completely daft argument. Anyone that drives for a living has life and death in their hands from taxi drivers to pizza boys on their little scooters.

    It does not warrant a massive paycheck.

    The difference is most days a train driver will have on a twelve car train any thing from one passenger up 700 passengers or more in some trains.

    Also you can't steer a train, Its you and the object simple
  • timbo58 wrote: »
    It clearly does warrant a large paycheck or they wouldn't currently be getting one I'm afraid.

    A lot of the wage rises in recent years have been as a result of selling off favourable working conditions in return for higher pay (as per US unions do).

    If it was merely a case if the strongest union gets the highest wages for their staff then the Fire Brigades union members would all be millionaires IMHO.

    A taxi driver or moped delivery doesn't have 500-1000 passengers lives in their hands directly, a bad comparison, try comparing it with an airpline pilot...oops!

    Your opinion has already been seen to be worthless so thankfully I will take your post under advisement.

    Are you comparing a tube driver to an airline pilot? do me a favour - one almost certainly will be phased out in my lifetime and replaced with a computer and I can tell you it is not going to be the pilot ;)

    So if people get paid what they deserve what does that say about footballers? or celebrities? Do they get paid commensurately to the value they provide to society?

    They get paid for what they can sell out for, and when it is too much (as will soon be the case with tube drivers) they will be replaced with a cheaper alternative. Such is the way of business.
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  • jobdone1 wrote: »
    Also you can't steer a train, Its you and the object simple

    So even simpler than driving a car? thought so!
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  • jobdone1
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    So even simpler than driving a car? thought so!

    Like i said in my previous post, Go and do the assessments and training and try it for your self that's if you can pass the initial stages
  • coastline
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    ILW wrote: »
    Bit of a daft argument.
    Bit like saying the bloke that cleans the boiler boiler in a large hotel should be paid a fortune because he could burn the place down.

    you see...you've gotta pay people a good rate or they'll flee the country...like the bankers and entrepreneurs..;)
  • jobdone1 wrote: »
    Like i said in my previous post, Go and do the assessments and training and try it for your self that's if you can pass the initial stages

    I already earn lots more than a train driver so why would I bother?

    Anyway, you've derailed (;)) the conversation as this is specifically about TUBE drivers.
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  • Wookster wrote: »
    He will no doubt blame the conservative mayor for not rolling over and submitting to the whims of a militant union like ken livingstone always did.

    Thats strange, I was sure Boris Johnson had been Mayor since 2008 and the last inflation busting pay deal for the tube drivers that runs from 2011 to 2015 was signed off during his time (it was agreed in 2011 - by which time Boris had been in the job for over 3 years)



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  • jobdone1
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    edited 18 December 2012 at 4:02PM
    I already earn lots more than a train driver so why would I bother?

    Anyway, you've derailed (;)) the conversation as this is specifically about TUBE drivers.

    Well i'm pleased for you but train drivers tube or overground are Skilled Professional drivers SIMPLE.

    So the only one off the rails is not me :D
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite

    So if people get paid what they deserve what does that say about footballers? or celebrities? Do they get paid commensurately to the value they provide to society?

    They get paid for what they can sell out for, and when it is too much (as will soon be the case with tube drivers) they will be replaced with a cheaper alternative. Such is the way of business.


    They do get paid way too much when will they be replaced with cheaper alternatives. What is even more stupid is that people pay daft amounts to watch them, voluntarily.

    I would rate a tube driver, paramedic, nurse, firefighter of higher worth than a premier footballer but that is just my opinion.
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  • CLAPTON
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    London Dockland Light railways is totally driverless.
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