£180 charge notice for stopping on private road (Ransomes Industrial/Ipswich)

Half_way

Unfortunately i work as an agency driver and i am 3rd in line to pay this fine

its not a fine, what are the exact words of your agency/driver agreement regarding fines penalties and other charges?
you may also want to look at the long running pepipoo thread on proserve/duff

hoohoo

Ransomes Park v Anderson established the charges were not lawful, and the company could only charge a market rate for this, which later on was established as around £20. Additionally, if you were in you cab the whole time then trespassers have to be given a reasonable time to stop trespassing, so they should have come along and warned you. In Ransomes Park v Anderson ,they told the court that was what they did.

This week, Proserve were having a judicial review to see if they could continue to get keeper data from the DVLA. We dont yet know the result.

Redx

pranksters latest blog about this review here

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/

pogofish

nicsawalker wrote: »

Can i ask what the outcome was for the above as i have received a £180.00 parking ticket fine for parking on double yellows, while taking my legal 45 minute tacho driving break during the daytime, after making a delivery at one of the businesses there. I was parked in a non busy area and out of the way so that i didn't block anyone!

This was a reduced fine from £250.00. I have read that a company did take them to court and Ransomes won and they ended up paying their £1000 in fines.

Unfortunately i work as an agency driver and i am 3rd in line to pay this fine... it was paid by DW Clark logistics initially and then my agency and now i am to pay this back to my agency.
I think the charge is ridiculous due to the fact that parking fines in London are cheaper and surely this is not right?!?
Are there any cases being made against them?

I have read that you can "appeal if you think the amount you have been asked to pay is unfair. Also If you are challenging the level of the fine, you can ask for a breakdown of how the landowner calculated their losses.Compensation can only be claimed for losses suffered because you parked either in the wrong place or stayed too long. For example if a company charged a fixed penalty because you stayed longer than agreed, this may prove to be unenforceable by the courts if the fine exceeds the amount of actual loss experienced by the landowner."

Please read the Newbies Sticky and start your own thread.

You clearly agreed not to hijack old/outdated threads during signup and reading old/possibly out of date info won't get you the best of help.

Umkomaas

nicsawalker wrote: »

Can i ask what the outcome was for the above as i have received a £180.00 parking ticket fine for parking on double yellows, while taking my legal 45 minute tacho driving break during the daytime, after making a delivery at one of the businesses there. I was parked in a non busy area and out of the way so that i didn't block anyone!

This was a reduced fine from £250.00. I have read that a company did take them to court and Ransomes won and they ended up paying their £1000 in fines.

Unfortunately i work as an agency driver and i am 3rd in line to pay this fine... it was paid by DW Clark logistics initially and then my agency and now i am to pay this back to my agency.
I think the charge is ridiculous due to the fact that parking fines in London are cheaper and surely this is not right?!?
Are there any cases being made against them?

I have read that you can "appeal if you think the amount you have been asked to pay is unfair. Also If you are challenging the level of the fine, you can ask for a breakdown of how the landowner calculated their losses.Compensation can only be claimed for losses suffered because you parked either in the wrong place or stayed too long. For example if a company charged a fixed penalty because you stayed longer than agreed, this may prove to be unenforceable by the courts if the fine exceeds the amount of actual loss experienced by the landowner."

You need to get up to speed with the whole ProServe/Ransomes scenario. As it is so advanced on PePiPoo it might be better posting (a new thread) on there. I'm sure Valiant will be interested in your experience.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=93337

Dr._Shoe

You shouldn't park on double yellows whether you're taking a tacho break or not. My DH always looks for a lorry park or takes his break in the yard of a place he's delivered to (subject to permission of course).

As everyone else has said it's just a speculative invoice though the rules have changed and you shouldn't ignore it.

However, it's out of your hands now as your boss has paid it and is now asking for reimbursement. You could try pointing out that the client shouldn't have paid it in the first place but I should imagine they'd still want their money

Take it as a lesson, find somewhere "legal" to park instead.

esmerobbo

Dr._Shoe wrote: »

Take it as a lesson, find somewhere "legal" to park instead.

They didn't park anywhere "illegal" maybe inconsiderate, but the DYL's are Proserves meal ticket.

Didn't they state this week that they were acting as an member of an ATA at their judicial review, doesn't sound like it do it?