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Corrupt lower case É (e acute)

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  • Valli
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    NFH wrote: »
    When is this going to be fixed? Why is it that I can't write innocent words like CAFÉ in lower case but I can write rude words like shìt and fùck? It seems that accents used in French are being singled out for blocking, but accents used in other languages are allowed. When is this anti-French discrimination going to end?

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  • vuvuzela
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    NFH wrote: »
    When is this going to be fixed? Why is it that I can't write innocent words like CAFÉ in lower case but I can write rude words like shìt and fùck? It seems that accents used in French are being singled out for blocking, but accents used in other languages are allowed. When is this anti-French discrimination going to end?

    Oh, do grow up.
    Posting rude words isn't big or clever. As you've been told more than once, the only thing that's being 'discriminated' against is spammers.
  • NFH
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    vuvuzela wrote: »
    As you've been told more than once, the only thing that's being 'discriminated' against is spammers.
    What has it got to do with spammers? Why are lower case ÁÉÍÓÚ blocked but àèìòù are allowed? This makes no sense at all. What correlation do acute accents have with spam or profanity which grave accents do not have? Somebody seems to have applied a ban on legitimate characters without thinking it through at all, and nobody seems capable of explaining this ban.
  • Old_Wrinkly
    Old_Wrinkly Posts: 5,182 Forumite
    It's bonkers ...
    And it's not just the French language that suffers (or English loan words from French). Irish (and some common Irish names) are similarly affected.
  • robatwork
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    I would be interested to hear the rationale behind filtering just this one character. I can't think of that many English swears that even have an e.

    And as e(acute) is the most common accented letter in English - for example the word clichÉ that just got !!! out of my recent post - I can't see the logic.
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    robatwork wrote: »
    I would be interested to hear the rationale behind filtering just this one character. I can't think of that many English swears that even have an e.

    And as e(acute) is the most common accented letter in English - for example the word clichÉ that just got !!! out of my recent post - I can't see the logic.

    The English language does not require any accents on letters, so I don't see the requirement for any of them on a forum that requires posts to be written in English.

    Write in English and you won't ever have a problem.

    e.g. what is wrong with the nice English word, platitude?
  • NFH
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    Wywth wrote: »
    The English language does not require any accents on letters, so I don't see the requirement for any of them on a forum that requires posts to be written in English.
    It is very naïve of you to assume that all words written in these forums, including many proper nouns and a handful of dictionary words, do not have accents.
  • Old_Wrinkly
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    Wywth wrote: »
    The English language does not require any accents on letters, so I don't see the requirement for any of them on a forum that requires posts to be written in English.

    Write in English and you won't ever have a problem.

    The following seems to represent a reasonable interpretation of the situation (my highlighting in red) :
    When you are citing a word, a name or a passage from a foreign language which uses diacritics, you should make every effort to reproduce those diacritics faithfully. Fortunately, most word processors can produce at least the commoner diacritics.

    You are most likely to need to do this when citing names of persons or places or titles of literary and musical works.
    The French President is François Hollande, the Spanish golfer is Jos!-Mar!a Olaz!bal, the founder of the modern Turkish state is Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, and Wagner's opera is the Götterdämmerung.
    So far as you can produce them, therefore, these are the forms you should use even when writing in English.

    But don't overdo it. If an accepted English form exists, use that: write Munich, not München; Montreal, not Montr!al; The Magic Flute, not Die Zauberflöte.

    In English, diacritics are not normally used, but they occur in three situations.

    First, many foreign words and phrases have been borrowed into English, and some of these are not yet regarded as fully anglicized. Such forms should be written with their original diacritics, and they should also be written in italics, if possible, to show their foreign status:
    Lloyd George was the Tories' bête noire.

    Many other such items have become so completely anglicized that they are now usually treated as ordinary English words. Hence, most people now write cafe, rather than caf!, naive, rather than naïve, and cortege, rather than cortège, and such words are not normally italicized in any case. If you are in doubt about these, you should, as always, consult a good dictionary.

    Second, one particular diacritic, the diaeresis (¨), is very occasionally written in English to show that a vowel is to be pronounced separately. A familiar example of this is the name Zoë, but other cases exist. A few people write coöperate, rather than cooperate, and aërate, rather than aerate, but the spellings with the diaeresis are now decidedly old-fashioned and not recommended. Usage varies with the surname Brontë: all the members of this famous family spelled their name with the diaeresis, which should therefore perhaps by retained by the usual rule of respecting the preferences of the owner of a name, but many people nevertheless now write Bronte.

    Third, a grave accent is occasionally written over the letter e in the ending -ed to show that it is pronounced as a separate syllable. Thus we write 'a learnèd scholar' or 'an agèd man' to show that learnèd and agèd are each pronounced here as two syllables. Compare 'I learned French at school' and 'He has aged rapidly', in which learned and aged are pronounced as single syllables.
  • Wywth
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    Well googled Old Wrinkly!

    But I'm not sure what how many times you would ever need to mention the name of the French President, a Spanish Golfer, a founder of a Turkish State, a german Opera, or how to write words to indicate how they are pronounced (such as in a dictionary) on a forum dedicated to UK consumer moneysaving :cool:
  • NFH
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    Wywth wrote: »
    But I'm not sure what how many times you would ever need to mention the name of the French President, a Spanish Golfer, a founder of a Turkish State, a german Opera, or how to write words to indicate how they are pronounced (such as in a dictionary) on a forum dedicated to UK consumer moneysaving :cool:
    It is quite common to need to mention (often by copying and pasting) names of companies as well as places, particularly in the travel-related forums of this site.
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