Confused but defo techy mother.

debitcardmayhem

rhoobarbcrumble wrote: »

No we're not paying for the course - he is at college doing a levels. But I still want him to learn and pass. As for the batch files in high school - you only have to open them in notepad or something so why oneblondebrow thinks an IT teacher would need to know how to open them up is beyond me. Batch files are what people used to mess with in the old days, that's like seriously basic stuff. I could open a batch file in dos. Just like everyone else could windows makes it even easier

Windows can make it harder, but of course that assumes that their admins have 2 brain cells

rhoobarbcrumble

Windows makes it easier than dos because you don't even have to remember the file path. It's just click on this folder, click on this folder rinse and repeat...

wealdroam

Accept also has a different meaning to except.

Mirno

Obfuscation is a process - it can be done in code (to make the code less understandable). It can also be done by a compiler - to make the machine code more difficult to reverse engineer.

Obfuscating compilers are rare now though - with modern disassemblers you can pick through code pretty easily, or just dumping core from a live execution (to get around simple tricks like self modifying code).

Obfuscation now is more of an "art", a twisted attempt to code things in novel ways see the obfuscated c competitions. Some of them are genius! (I like Duff's device though so my opinions of code quality shouldn't be trusted ).


As for teachers not knowing much about computing that's nothing new! But not knowing something isn't a sign of a bad teacher - especially in computing. At university several of the professors didn't know much about the actual programming side of things, but if you wanted to know the theory of compiler design they were the people to talk to.

As for windows being easier - you need notepad in windows to display a batch file. DOS had the "type" command built in to the command interpreter.
You can write batch files with echo and file redirection (which is actually easier than using edlin).

rhoobarbcrumble

Thank you, someone who definitely gets the big picture. Yes, people do need to know the type or edit line in dos. But in windows, notepad comes easily to anyone who can just point and click. No command line needed.

oneblondebrow

rhoobarbcrumble wrote: »

I thought I'd corrected the spelling mistake of obfuscation... because my touch typing fingers decided to do it the wrong way for some reason. English Language teaches you what that word means, not a specific computing course. And as for the batch file, methinks he didn't even know what one was(he sort of had a hissy fit and screamed virus - I suspect dos would have thrown him.
And some compilers may except obfuscated code but only because they weren't compiling but were hiding the original file from snoopy programmers.

I didn't say the tutor wont know how to read a batch file, most schools have their computers locked down with user restrictions so as said if they let one pupil create a batch file then all pupils can do it, imagine having to rifle through the whole network daily to make sure all the pupil created batch files are harmfull.

Have you ever looked after a large network?

If you are concerned then you need to speak to them,but as said it the tutor does not specialize in one specific subject then they will not know everything about computing.

Chickabiddybex

rhoobarbcrumble wrote: »

Wow, talk about being shat on... I wanted some help because I didn't know what to do about the teacher not even understanding the word I'm too scared to even try and spell now. Sorry I got definitely wrong, I usually get it right, same with separately. Thanks for your help everyone
Oh no.... a carriage return is now following....
Just a bit nasty don't you think?

I was only joking about the spacing; I understand that tone is hard to put across online but I promise I wasn't trying to come across as nasty