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The Polls - Labour Lead At 14 - Is It The Economy?
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Considering that at many of our past General Elections the percentage of voters that actually do turn up to vote, in my mind, is disgustingly very low.
How can we get a higher percentage off their backsides and get them down to the Ballot Stations and do the honorable thing and vote, many who make the most noise about Government policies are those who cannot be bothered to vote.
Perhaps we need an app that can be run on tablets, smart phones and PCs so people can do it from the comfort of their armchair."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
GeorgeHowell wrote: »
Happy new year to you as well George.As soon as I see the tired old Daily Mail jibe I know that I'm looking at the
work of a dimwit, and the rest of that post confirms it.
A Trade Union that tries to damage a tory led govmt.....really!!!The left wing conspiracy -- if there is one -- refers to the alleged work of a
de fact trade union, via some of it footsoldiers, to try to damage a
Conservative-led government by underhand and dishonest means.
I don't think any of us will be able to sleep safely in our beds now!
I agree...but you are saying nothing significnt
It has been said elsewhere on this forum that although the leadership of the
PF is perceived to be left wing, the political orientation of the police in
general is less clear cut and may not necessarily reflect that.
Some policemen may have no political scruples that would inhibit them from
stitching up young black men. The key issue is that if the Mitchell affair is
demonstrated to be a police stitch up, then it would create the impression that
an adequate degree of management and moral code does not exist in the police to
prevent stitch ups -- albeit that they are no longer very good at it. Ergo
anyone might be stitched up for any reason, regardless of politics.
I think we already know this George...ever heard of Stephen Lawrence?
Alleged stitching up of Cabinet Ministers for political reasons and of young
black men for other reasons are not therefore inconsistent scenarios.
Yes well done that's what I was saying but it took me fewer words!
George you are so obviously a Daily Mail geek it can't be avoided I'm afraid:)
Maybe a typical Daily Mail reader would not appreciate that. But then nor
would a dimwit who thinks that it's smart to level that term at anyone who
disagrees with them on an internet forum.0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Perhaps we need an app that can be run on tablets, smart phones and PCs so people can do it from the comfort of their armchair.
That would be a excellent idea, then they could still sit on their backsides and vote which would be a result for everyone.0 -
Takes one to know one GeorgeGeorgeHowell wrote: »That's because Conservatives are realists who appreciate just how abjectly stupid large swathes of the British electorate are.0 -
Daily Mail following progress of ukip very closely too. Farage's been saying 'Bl--dy Hell Nigel, you were right, people thought you were crackers but you were right!' Presumably means on Europe!0
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Farage's appeal is also an anti politics vote, like the support for Boris, people feel rightly or wrongly they don't really care about the style or substance just that the message hasn't been sanitised by a cold PR machine. Even if the public don't totally agree with the message, they find it refreshing to be given a seemly honest answer from a person than PR doublespeak.
If we had the right innovative labour leader right now that could pull off the same trick we could probably complete 'a British Coup' and bring in all sorts if change consisting the golden position labour are in.Proudly voted remain. A global union of countries is the only way to commit global capital to the rule of law.0 -
DecentLivingWage wrote: »Daily Mail following progress of ukip very closely too. Farage's been saying 'Bl--dy Hell Nigel, you were right, people thought you were crackers but you were right!' Presumably means on Europe!
Daily mail are scared, they can see how the Tory party are going to pull themselves apart over UKIP, it's going to be labour for the next 15 years. I just hope to god they have some innovative and radical policies. They can afford to bring in profound change with the position they will be in.Proudly voted remain. A global union of countries is the only way to commit global capital to the rule of law.0 -
GeorgeHowell wrote: »Voting UKIP will just let Labour in. Those who do it will then be crying their eyes out, and blaming Cameron for not delivering a clear majority, like many no doubt did last time.
Considering that many on this Forum, myself included, agree that the Labour Party lost the last election mostly by their own doings, so why did the Conservative Party not win the race by many lengths because the field looked wide open.0 -
Considering that many on this Forum, myself included, agree that the Labour Party lost the last election mostly by their own doings, so why did the Conservative Party not win the race by many lengths because the field looked wide open.
I am sure that a thesis could be written on that, but my theory on the main reasons are :- too much trying to appeal to the centre ground, the effect of UKIP in marginal seats (because the Tories were not Eurosceptic enough), uninspiring performances in the TV debates, Labour's successful client state policy of buying millions of votes with taxpayers' money, the near impossibility of closing the 2005 gap in one go.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
In my case, my local Tory MP "had to" stand down as a result of the expenses scandal; it's a shame because he was a pretty good representative.Considering that many on this Forum, myself included, agree that the Labour Party lost the last election mostly by their own doings, so why did the Conservative Party not win the race by many lengths because the field looked wide open.
The replacement was parachuted in from another town and I was doubtful of his inclinations towards supporting the town.
On the evidence of the time since the election, I'm not seeing too much from the new man (though he has started sending out newsletters, which is a big step forward), so I'm not sure about next time.
I'm likely to abstain, as I did in the last local elections.0
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