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Osborne Loses It - Our Triple A Rating And Its Future
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Dont mind about talking about the current government's policies at all. However I find it completely ludicrous to try and suggest its Maggie T's fault for where we are now. Labour had 13 years to do as they want.Are you finding it so hard to believe that there is more than one poster who doesn't agree with the government's policies?? Take a look at the opinion polls.
(PS - it would be really sad if you turn this thread personal and into a mud slinging fest. It would be nice if you could keep to the issues?.I realise that must be difficult given the state of the current government....)
Right now, the Tories have had 2 years to try and implement a few watered down policies thanks to the Lib Dems. The coalition is a bit of a joke because the coalition is 3/4s right wing and 1/4 left wing with policies seemly to be half and half but Id take them any day of the week over Labour - they are only ever any good for going bankrupting.0 -
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Graham_Devon wrote: »Your use of "sane" is based purely on your opinion.
And it would be very difficult to even get close to calling your extreme opinions, where you back labour up to the hilt regardless of what they do or don't do, anything close to "sane"!
Well, there is nothing "sane" about the way the country is being run at the moment is there? With every passing day things are getting worse and worse....
Show me an Economist that thinks the Coalition are on the right track?If you keep doing what you've always done - you will keep getting what you've always got.0 -
BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »18 years 18 years - it took Margaret Thatcher & the Tories to reduce our country to a pile of rubble and turn Britain into a Third World country.....that's what Labour inherited in 1998....
...I'm fed up of Tories NOT taking responsibility for the state they left us in......
Seriously? I hink the state of ALL those institutions were perfectly acceptable, in fact better than they were at the start and arguably better than after the last Labour government.
We have NEVER been a 3rd world country - not even close. If you'd been to some you might understand what that truly means. There the places where people need help with a tin roof and a bowl full of rice, not takeaways and designer clothes for their kids.
Im fed up of Labour supporters not realising you cant have what you cant afford - no matter how noble the idea.0 -
Laura, don't you have any work to do at Labour HQ?0
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In all fairness you have a point - a lot of economists say the Coalition should be cutting even more.Well, there is nothing "sane" about the way the country is being run at the moment is there? With every passing day things are getting worse and worse....
Show me an Economist that thinks the Coalition are on the right track?0 -
Well, there is nothing "sane" about the way the country is being run at the moment is there? With every passing day things are getting worse and worse....
Show me an Economist that thinks the Coalition are on the right track?
No economist will say this, not in reports anyhow. What they do, and I think the IFS did yesterday, is suggest the cuts are not hard enough. Fitch has suggested the cuts are not harsh enough either, hence looking at the loss of the AAA rating.
I think you just look at the loss of the AAA rating, and blame the tories. You don't seem to look at the reasoning for it and challenge yourself by asking yourself "so if labour suggest they would spend and borrow more, surely that would mean we'd already have lost it".
The economists are suggesting the coalition is not doing enough. You are moaning they are doing too much of it and labour have the answer as they would do less. You appear to just think economists back labour up purely because they say the coalition isn't doing enough.
You just appear to go around in a bubble where labour have a key to the magic money tree, while still humming "things can only get better".0 -
angrypirate wrote: »Dont mind about talking about the current government's policies at all. However I find it completely ludicrous to try and suggest its Maggie T's fault for where we are now. Labour had 13 years to do as they want.
Right now, the Tories have had 2 years to try and implement a few watered down policies thanks to the Lib Dems. The coalition is a bit of a joke because the coalition is 3/4s right wing and 1/4 left wing with policies seemly to be half and half but Id take them any day of the week over Labour - they are only ever any good for going bankrupting.
The Tories weren't voted in...they had to form a coalition.You would have thought it would have been a landslide victory.Their supporters from a decade ago deserted them....0 -
Thatcher then came in and divided the country, devastated the NHS, starved the schools budgets, miners strike, poll tax, deregulated the city etc. The 'idiot' depends on where you come from and what you stand for;)
Really?
NHS spending increased in real terms YoY under Thatcher.
Thatcher's Governments closed pits that were loss making in order to privatise an industry. Why should coal miners be subsidised by taxpayers in general? I work in a bank and I think banks should get the subsidy instead. Mrs Generali on the other hand would like to see a subsidy for mothers and accountants. I have friends that think subsidies should be put to photographers, designers, chefs, IT bods, teachers, librarians and administrators.
Poll tax? Not one of the Tory party's finest moments. A stupid idea that cost the Prime Minister her job.
Big Bang (City deregulation) was about getting rid of the broker/jobber system of fixed commissions. I don't see why that was so bad. Why do you think the pre-Big Bang Jobber System was superior to what we have now where brokers deal via the Central Counterparty?
To look at the 11 years of the Thatcher Governments in isolation without looking at the country prior to that is to look at the finger rather than to the moon it is pointing to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDW6vkuqGLg
You'll miss all that earthly chaos caused by the calamitous left wing Governments (both Tory and Labour) of the 1945-79 period.0 -
angrypirate wrote: »Because the country was looking rosey before Margret Thatcher got in power?
And really, you cannt blame the current state of the economy on a Prime Minister in power over 20 years ago. Labour were in power for 13 years. If they couldnt make all the amendments they needed to in that time to then they are obviously incompetent.
PS - Is your alter ego LauraW10?
Maggie was just part of the problem, one of many PMs and governments who have and are presiding over the UK sliding towards the third world.
Relative and growing poverty for many with a rich and exclusive elite.
The honourable thing would be to simply acknowledge that rather than pretend we are all in it together. Trickle down just doesn't happen."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0
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