Asda`s Think 25 policy - VENT

DCFC79

cherub1965 wrote: »

Whats the policy for home delivery then? I only ask because recently I purchased a few cases of cider and lager to be delivered to my student son in his house share, they are all 21,were having a house warming party. I paid but had it delivered to his address. No query was made.
Was going to do the same leading up to xmas for them but not sure now.
There was no ID required. Is it different if it is off store premises?

Speaking from experience, the drivers who I know from work apply the same rules as the checkout assistants do in store eg if they dont look old enough then the delivery is returned back to store. If your son and housemates can prove they're ages with a passport/DL then thats fine.

dealer_wins

Reading this thread and the (ridiculous) policy of the shops, im thinking that we have gone stark raving mad in this country when it comes to regulations!!

Sharon87

It's true. People who are innocently buying alcohol for themselves get penalised by taking their 17 year old son or daughter with them, but the 18 year old with 17 year old friends know this rule and leave their friends outside or to go to another till with the soft drinks.

At least that's what I did when I was 17! The 2 18 year olds went in to get the booze, we got snacks and soft drinks, or waited outside. We weren't a nuisance though lol

Flat_Eric

dealer_wins wrote: »

Reading this thread and the (ridiculous) policy of the shops, im thinking that we have gone stark raving mad in this country when it comes to regulations!!

we have gone stark raving mad. there is no sense to anything anymore.

Norma_Desmond

The 'Think 21' and 'Think 25' policies are terribly unfair to employees.

Both staff and managers are under huge pressure to ask for ID and will face instant dismissal under charges of gross misconduct even if a customer/mystery customer IS actually 18 or over.

sarahg1969

What I want to know is how do they prove someone looks under 25? It's subjective, isn't it?

Norma_Desmond

sarahg1969 wrote: »

What I want to know is how do they prove someone looks under 25? It's subjective, isn't it?

Exactly; and there's the problem.

sarahg1969

Norma_Desmond wrote: »

Exactly; and there's the problem.

I don't think it's a problem. I think you have a good defence if your managers query it. They can't prove someone looks under 25. They can't instantly dismiss you because they have a different opinion from you. They'd be on even thinner ice if that person is in their 30s or 40s.

I wonder how many people that has actually happened to, and whether or not they just took it lying down? Or is it just a legend?

Norma_Desmond

sarahg1969 wrote: »

I don't think it's a problem. I think you have a good defence if your managers query it. They can't prove someone looks under 25. They can't instantly dismiss you because they have a different opinion from you. They'd be on even thinner ice if that person is in their 30s or 40s.

I wonder how many people that has actually happened to, and whether or not they just took it lying down? Or is it just a legend?

Unfortunately 'they' can and will dismiss you; I personally know of two cases where this has happened - one to a close friend who is currently taking the case to tribunal with the support of her union.

Not a legend or urban myth sadly.

purple.sarah

What would you complain about? The "till lady" enforcing the id policy? That's her job! At the end of the day how can the staff know your friend's age or that she will not be consuming the alcohol? They are not going to take a gamble on your word when their job is at stake. I can understand it is frustrating for you but it is frustrating for the staff too. As a shop assistant, I live in fear that someone will kick off when I ask for their id and fear that if I don't I will lose my job. If I did accidentally sell alcohol to someone under age I could lose my job, be prosecuted, fined and face the prospect of trying to find a new job with a criminal record.

Here is some more information:
Budgens shop assistant in Chingford fined for selling alcohol to underage teenager

“What happens if a sale is made?
The retailer and/or the person making the sale could be prosecuted and fined up to £5,000 in most cases and £2,500 for aerosols. There is also the possibility of up to 6 months imprisonment and up to 2 years for lottery tickets.”
http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/kent/documents/KCAP%20retailers%20pack%20Mar10.pdf

Think about the pressure shop staff are under.