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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    edited 4 December 2012 at 12:17PM
    Percy1983 wrote: »
    I was earning £50 at first, even in Oldham that didn't cut it, by the time I could have afforded to buy a small terrace the prices had increased too far. As it is I left School in 99 so it was every time my income went up houses went up more.

    We could have started small and shaved a few months off saving in recent times but why bother?

    BTW Percy, congratulations to the two of you for getting on top of all that debt and now purchasing a decent house to live in, Well done it couldn't have been easy.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Yet again a thread on this board shows that the "Selfish Generation" had it all when they wanted. They enjoyed decades of an upwards economic curve, they enjoyed affordable housing, they enjoyed stable careers that didnt need a minimum of 5 years of further and higher education to enter.

    Now they leave the country with a crippling legacy of debt, unfunded pension obligations, unlimited NHS bills, perilously insecure and limited housing options for the young, and graduates needing 10s of thousands of pounds of university debt to get a job filing if they are lucky.

    This generation has been on the make, and on the take. And now the cookie jar has run out they have their hands all over Generation X and Ys biscuits.

    For shame.
  • And now the cookie jar has run out they have their hands all over Generation X and Ys biscuits.

    Percy still got his share of the cookies.
    From 28k debt to 3-bed semi in just 3 years.


    :)
  • Percy1983
    Percy1983 Posts: 5,244 Forumite
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    :D
    Are you sure it's not simpler than that? That you were 28K in debt 3 years ago and couldn't afford anything anyway?

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/1511961

    And as soon as Mrs. Percy came along, somehow your debts magically disappeared? End game...lol ;)

    Already been though this one but I will post a quick summary.

    The short is part of that debt was due to Mrs Percy anyway (IE I paid for both cars we where driving.

    Anyway combinded debt peaked at just short of £40k, we cleared combined debts together then saved together.

    I admit that by the end of the debt clearing Mrs Percy had infact paid a portion of my debts, but I soon made up for this as most of the deposit was saved by me and likewise having the higher income I pay a higher percentage of the bills.

    As I have said a few times, at one point I technically owed her money and at some point later the balance tipped and she technically owed me money, but since then we got married so whats mine is hers anyway so all is null and void and we are getting in life nice and happily.
    Percy still got his share of the cookies.
    From 28k debt to 3-bed semi in just 3 years.


    :)

    I have worked bloody hard for my cookies thank you.

    ps, it wasn't easy, and if you really want to pick holes we where gifted £500 towards the deposit.
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
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  • Percy1983 wrote: »

    I have worked bloody hard for my cookies thank you.

    And so have most of us.
    Toastie seems to think it was all given on a plate.
    He still can't grasp the notion of working for a cookie, for him a cookie is an entitlement.
    One day he'll learn.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    And so have most of us.
    Toastie seems to think it was all given on a plate.
    He still can't grasp the notion of working for a cookie, for him a cookie is an entitlement.
    One day he'll learn.

    The chance to work and get more cookies is itself a cookie.

    A cookie that has been robbed from my generation as the cookies just go into your jar.
  • Condemnation of these proposals is almost universal. Hardly anyone wants more housing near them. So stop getting excited.

    this blue chip firm seems to think we should have cheaper housing.

    do you think that a company like vodafone holds more or less sway than several thousand selfish Daily Express readers?
    FACT.
  • zagubov
    zagubov Posts: 17,939 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    I suspect that PaulF81's point is that a house being built in a field doesn't create a car it simply changes its parking space.
    ukcarper wrote: »
    I could see that but it's not where the cars are parked but the journeys they make.


    Well it may encourage a public-transport-using townie to become a suburbanite miles from facilities and amenities, s/he may buy a car, need somewhere to park it, take it to shops, entertainment, and their work who'll all have to supply parking spaces and access driveways.

    And as buses aren't laid on and won't be used the first time a raindropor snowflake gets spotted, , there'll be a lot of cars on the road where it would need very few buses/trams.
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    this blue chip firm seems to think we should have cheaper housing.

    do you think that a company like vodafone holds more or less sway than several thousand selfish Daily Express readers?

    Why doesn't vodafone move and relocate where it can attract the talent?

    A £70k exec in London may only be £50k elsewhere especially with their telecommunication systems at cost they could work virtually anywhere.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • ash28
    ash28 Posts: 1,789 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee! Debt-free and Proud!
    Why doesn't vodafone move and relocate where it can attract the talent?

    A £70k exec in London may only be £50k elsewhere especially with their telecommunication systems at cost they could work virtually anywhere.

    Most of Vodafone's jobs (around 3000) are in their headquarters in Newbury though they did move about 200 jobs to London 2 or 3 years ago - I used to work just down the road from them.

    I would imagine those already employed by Vodafone and living locally would travel into London by train - the new offices are in Paddington and you can get a train direct from Newbury - takes around 50 minutes. If they live in the Reading area the Paddington train takes 30 mins or so. They also run a fleet of buses one of which does headquarters to the station. Staff could travel into London for meetings etc with not a huge amount of hassle.

    It was Vodafone's choice to relocate 200 jobs to London, they can't have done that without realising that it would impact any new employees.

    I don't know why Vodafone don't rent some houses/flats themselves - I've worked for companies that do this - although not a permanent arrangement for the employee, it gives them the opportunity to look around the area and further afield while having somewhere to live for 6 months to a year.
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