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  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    I suspect that PaulF81's point is that a house being built in a field doesn't create a car it simply changes its parking space.
    I could see that but it's not where the cars are parked but the journeys they make.
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    Percy1983 wrote: »
    I did the same, but it doesn't mean I want the ladder pulling up after me, there needs to be more houses built, its a simple fact.

    Perhaps you should have a trip down to the Hampshire then drive up the M3 or A3 into outer London in the rush hour just to see why people complain about building additional property without inproving infrastucture.
  • Are you just naturally ornery, or breathtakingly stupid?

    No need for insults.
    There has always been a housing shortage. I don't dispute it is getting more acute and the prices in the SE are getting stupid. The overwhelming majority of people have always had to save deposits and start small or rent.

    Start small? I hope you're kidding grizzly.
    This is the 'I want it all and I want it now' generation, remember.
  • Percy1983
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    No need for insults.



    Start small? I hope you're kidding grizzly.
    This is the 'I want it all and I want it now' generation, remember.

    I would call it more I couldn't have it then so I will have more now.

    I couldn't afford the 'start small' when I was younger, so went straight to the 'end game' a little later.

    Of course I want it all and I want it now, doesn't everybody? As it is I can detach desire from reality and just got on with it.
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Percy1983 wrote: »
    I would call it more I couldn't have it then so I will have more now.

    I couldn't afford the 'start small' when I was younger, so went straight to the 'end game' a little later.

    Of course I want it all and I want it now, doesn't everybody? As it is I can detach desire from reality and just got on with it.


    Just remind us how very old you are.

    5 - 8 years from earning a sustainable steady income seems fair depending on qualifications and entry point. With so many more going to uni and then needing to professionally qualify I am not surprised more are in the 30s.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

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  • Percy1983
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    Just remind us how very old you are.

    5 - 8 years from earning a sustainable steady income seems fair depending on qualifications and entry point. With so many more going to uni and then needing to professionally qualify I am not surprised more are in the 30s.

    Well we bought at 28, as it is we didn't go to uni but both did NVQs (work based training) so both earned next to nothing for many years. So in short the 2 key points where, 1, the fruits of earlier studies/work started to pay, 2, we found each other (two wages are much better than one when buysing a house).

    But I would say much of my generation are in similar positions due to studying etc so its hardly shocking that many of us are buying in our late 20s and early 30s as you say.

    The think what gets me is how we then get called the 'want it now generation' because we then go straight to the 3 bed semi's, when the reality is starting small was out of reach so we worked hard and skipped that phase completely.

    The game certainly has changed thats for sure.
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
  • StevieJ
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    Percy1983 wrote: »
    I would call it more I couldn't have it then so I will have more now.

    I couldn't afford the 'start small' when I was younger, so went straight to the 'end game' a little later.

    Of course I want it all and I want it now, doesn't everybody? As it is I can detach desire from reality and just got on with it.

    Don't be ridiculous, you lived in Oldham, of course you could and I think you have admitted that before :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Percy1983
    Percy1983 Posts: 5,244 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Don't be ridiculous, you lived in Oldham, of course you could and I think you have admitted that before :)

    I was earning £50 at first, even in Oldham that didn't cut it, by the time I could have afforded to buy a small terrace the prices had increased too far. As it is I left School in 99 so it was every time my income went up houses went up more.

    We could have started small and shaved a few months off saving in recent times but why bother?
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
    Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
    Started third business 25/06/2016
    Son born 13/09/2015
    Started a second business 03/08/2013
    Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/2012
  • Percy1983 wrote: »

    I couldn't afford the 'start small' when I was younger, so went straight to the 'end game' a little later.

    Are you sure it's not simpler than that? That you were 28K in debt 3 years ago and couldn't afford anything anyway?

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/1511961

    And as soon as Mrs. Percy came along, somehow your debts magically disappeared? End game...lol ;)
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Percy1983 wrote: »
    I was earning £50 at first, even in Oldham that didn't cut it, by the time I could have afforded to buy a small terrace the prices had increased too far. As it is I left School in 99 so it was every time my income went up houses went up more.

    We could have started small and shaved a few months off saving in recent times but why bother?

    I rest my case Your Honour :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
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