gap between classing dates and interview.

studentphil

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Sorry, which sector is that? All you know about universities is what you've learned as a student, that's a tiny tiny part of the sector. And as for what you know about office work, if that's what you meant, probably best if we don't go there ...

And as for call centres, I would probably lose the will to live if you answered the phone, but leaving that aside, why would you have to say that's where you worked? Hundreds of people round here work for Orange and Direct Line, and that's who they say they work for, not "I work in a call centre".

Heck, I had a friend who used to work for the CSA, and she never admitted that! :rotfl:

Back to ceremonial - bishops have crooks, and they're bigger than maces.

I do not think call centre work is for me and I do not think I would like it. I know I would end up getting sacked as I would tell the customer to stuff it if they were nasty and I would come into instant conflict if the managers are really all into time and motion.

I don't think I am good enough to be a Bishop :cool:

jobbingmusician

studentphil wrote: »

The main things that stick out are:
1 do not take it personally as these employers know nothing about me and so are not rejecting me as a person. Agreed. Either you didn't have the skills they wanted or more likely you didn't DEMONSTRATE that you had the skills.

2 Do not expect loads of disability adjustments, so do not aim for typing jobs when I can not type Yes. Go for jobs that play to your strengths. Perhaps you could list for us what your strengths are? And I'm not being funny. Tutors and the careers service should have given you some pointers. For example, you can summarise, you can type reasonably well, you can be charming and you do have the capacity to learn fast.

3 take more time on applications I'm not sure anyone has actually said that. What you do have to do is to focus on the skills they want and demonstrate that you have these. About a million posts ago, in another thread, I did tell you how to do that - by listing the points in their own person specification (they are telling you what they want in this document!) and showing how you meet each point.

Incidentally, I have done a job application today. I am in an interim job at present and so need to find one in the next few months. i have applied for lots! Because I am applying for similar sorts of jobs, the same sort of skills come up again and again. Today I decided it would be useful to develop a document which contained copies of all the paragraphs I have written in response to the various skill requirements. Once you have done half a dozen job apps, some of these paragraphs are cut and pastable, or need only a little modification. Saves time and effort (but you must make sure they are personalised to the job you are applying for).

4 Don't chase a job at uni because they have fancy stuff like colourful robes and Maces. Not sure anyone has said this, although people have implied JUST because they have colourful stuff.

5 Do not give up, keep going. Very good learning point.

That is my list of what I have learnt.

You missed one - don't neglect your revision in the search for a job! :rotfl:

Tam_Lin

studentphil wrote: »

I know I would end up getting sacked as I would tell the customer to stuff it if they were nasty and I would come into instant conflict if the managers are really all into time and motion.

Phil - you're going to encounter elements of that in every single job you do. It's not just call centres where you need good interpersonal skills, stress management, and self-control. If you can't guarantee you're not at least going to try not to react like a bolshy !!!!!!, you won't get very far in the world of work.

studentphil

Tam_Lin wrote: »

I think the key word there is 'seem.' I don't really understand why you idolise the academic world, which is basically self-serving, protectionist, snobbish, and often on a tangent to reality. In my experience, unless a particular student is strong-willed, original and mature, many courses suck up undergrads and spit them out again like some eternal conveyor-belt. What's so great about that?

Give me someone with GCSEs who can get the job done over a PhD boffin who can't operate a bank account any day.

Universities are like that in that no one can stand each other and it is full of big egos and snobs. But it has a strong image that is respected and I could tap into that to make me feel better of myself as I work somewhere that is respected.

Tam_Lin

I give up - you really don't get it, do you? All this stuff about image and tapping into something that you think other people respect.

Tam_Lin

Ts_aly - are you advertising for a nanny or a sub?

studentphil

Tam_Lin wrote: »

Phil - you're going to encounter elements of that in every single job you do. It's not just call centres where you need good interpersonal skills, stress management, and self-control. If you can't guarantee you're not at least going to try not to react like a bolshy !!!!!!, you won't get very far in the world of work.

I am a bit too keen on saying what I think, but that is a bad thing that comes from my subject. I am a bit too keen on standing up for what I see as just. It is a shame there are no trade unions now as I think I would have made a good trade unionist.

studentphil

Tam_Lin wrote: »

I give up - you really don't get it, do you? All this stuff about image and tapping into something that you think other people respect.

I get it that I should respect myself and not care what other's think.

Tam_Lin

Sounds ideal, Aly - a few glitches maybe but nothing a ballgag won't solve.

studentphil

I think a trade unionist or involved in the railways would be sectors that suit my interests.

There is something really awesome about a train I have always thought.