How long does it take to dismiss an employee fairly? details inside

TheWhiteTiger

Assuming this employee has union rep and the procedure is as follows.

First written warning - they appeal
second written warning - they appeal
dismissal - they appeal.

please give timescales for both scenario's...

1) They win the appeals

2) They lose the appeals.

thanks in advance for your help

bluenoseam

How long is a piece of string - that example doesn't really tell us anything for example the appeal could be on very liberal grounds and could be shot down immediately.

Sambucus_Nigra

TheWhiteTiger wrote: »

Assuming this employee has union rep and the procedure is as follows.

First written warning - they appeal
second written warning - they appeal
dismissal - they appeal.

please give timescales for both scenario's...

1) They win the appeals

2) They lose the appeals.

thanks in advance for your help

Are you the employer, the employee or the union rep?

It can be any amount of time and you don't have to go in that order - you can skip straight to dismissal if they are thought to have committed gross misconduct.

getmore4less

The obvious answers are

1. Never

2. Depends. (how good/quick you are at managing the appeal process)

Remember appeals and next step can run concurently

TheWhiteTiger

I am the employee sambuca,

getmore4less do you mean another disiplinary can be given whilst an appeal is ongoing?

what if a certain person is being reported for nothing i.e malicious complaints. Can a greivance and disiplinary go on at the same time.

I havn;'t had a formal meeting or HR meeting yet just chats. just preparing for worst

Sambucus_Nigra

What have you done or what have you been accused of doing?

TheWhiteTiger

thats of little imortance at the moment but I will tell you soon.

I just need to keep this job for 12 months, then I am moving to belfast anyway. Got loads of friends up there

Sambucus_Nigra

TheWhiteTiger wrote: »

thats of little imortance at the moment but I will tell you soon.

I just need to keep this job for 12 months, then I am moving to belfast anyway. Got loads of friends up there

We can't help if you don't say.

I take it you 'did it' then? Whatever it was.

TheWhiteTiger

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

We can't help if you don't say.

I take it you 'did it' then? Whatever it was.

No I didn't, it's petty/false reporting.

Can you raise concerns about false accusations i.e grievance

TheWhiteTiger

But as far as I am aware in any company you can't win an appeal. As managment normally sides with management

TheWhiteTiger

If i can get this job to last just 12 months and get the qualification im doing ill be out of there.

Just wondering if through holidays greivances and appeals I could keep it for 12 month before leaving. I need it for 12 month either way to finish the course