Taking the micky

Daedalus

sniggings wrote: »

I look at all jobs and even cleaning jobs want you to have a car and 2 years experience!

sorry but your a fool if you think any job warrants less than £6.19 an hour, as they tax payer is already picking up billions in wages that employers are pocketing as profit instead of wages.

The fact that jobs are paying NMW is proof that some jobs should be below that level. The only way to value a job is where supply meets demand, which for many jobs will be below NMW.

sniggings

Daedalus wrote: »

The fact that jobs are paying NMW is proof that some jobs should be below that level. The only way to value a job is where supply meets demand, which for many jobs will be below NMW.

you're working on the premise that I give a !!!! what supply demands, no I look at it from a moral point of view.

Ash1982

sniggings wrote: »

you're working on the premise that I give a !!!! what supply demands, no I look at it from a moral point of view.

morally, your arguing that it is not worth working for £6.19 per hour when half the worlds population exists on less than a $ a day.

devilivus

Ash1982 wrote: »

worth working for £6.19 per hour

IS it worth working for that, though?

I mean, it's generally accepted that a family of four who live intirely off of benefits make, maybe 40k-45k per year or so? (child tax benefits, hosing benefit etc etc)

However, what about for a single guy, say in his 20's.
What is his equivilant? Just JSA and housing benefit at a reduced flat share rate?
What does that work out too, compared to a working wage of 6.19 per hour, 35 hrs per week, out of interest?

Ash1982

devilivus wrote: »

IS it worth working for that, though?

I mean, it's generally accepted that a family of four who live intirely off of benefits make, maybe 40k-45k per year or so? (child tax benefits, hosing benefit etc etc)

However, what about for a single guy, say in his 20's.
What is his equivilant? Just JSA and housing benefit at a reduced flat share rate?
What does that work out too, compared to a working wage of 6.19 per hour, 35 hrs per week, out of interest?

We are lucky we live in a country that provides for our unemployed. In the majority of the world, you work to live and you have no choice. I get iritated when people say 'is it worth working', it should be more like 'I have to work to live'. The welfare state should there as a safety net, not a lifestyle choice.

sniggings

Ash1982 wrote: »

morally, your arguing that it is not worth working for £6.19 per hour when half the worlds population exists on less than a $ a day.

please if your going to make childish arguments such as that then I will just ignore you, surely you understand that someone on one dollar a day lives in a different economy, their one dollar would go farther than one dollar here.

Daedalus

sniggings wrote: »

please if your going to make childish arguments such as that then I will just ignore you, surely you understand that someone on one dollar a day lives in a different economy, their one dollar would go farther than one dollar here.

Standard of living on someone on less than $1 a day is any country is a mere fraction of the standard of living of a British citizen on NMW or even benefits. You can ignore that all you want, I imagine that is easy than facing to inconsistencies in your morality.

sniggings

devilivus wrote: »

IS it worth working for that, though?

I mean, it's generally accepted that a family of four who live intirely off of benefits make, maybe 40k-45k per year or so? (child tax benefits, hosing benefit etc etc)

However, what about for a single guy, say in his 20's.
What is his equivilant? Just JSA and housing benefit at a reduced flat share rate?
What does that work out too, compared to a working wage of 6.19 per hour, 35 hrs per week, out of interest?

take me for an example, I get £71 JSA and £85 a week rent paid, with all the other bits and bobs, prescriptions etc (just picks one up so that was saving of £7.65) so a part time job would see me no better off and a full time job on min wage would see me about £70 better off, thats before work expenses, travel etc, so for the joy of working 40 hours for min wage and jumping through employers hoops I maybe £40 better off, £1 an hour, thats if I could get a min wage job at full time hours, very few out there, most are part time or even 0 hour contracts, someone with a few kids doen't stand a chance.

Ash1982

sniggings wrote: »

please if your going to make childish arguments such as that then I will just ignore you, surely you understand that someone on one dollar a day lives in a different economy, their one dollar would go farther than one dollar here.

But we are OK morally to complain about being in this country with our plentiful food and water whilst people starve?

You can ignore me but I am entitled to my opinion.

sniggings

Daedalus wrote: »

Standard of living on someone on less than $1 a day is any country is a mere fraction of the standard of living of a British citizen on NMW or even benefits. You can ignore that all you want, I imagine that is easy than facing to inconsistencies in your morality.

you seem to make up your mind on what I think instead of asking, who says I agree with someone on $1 a day! just because I want workers here to earn a decent living wage, why does that read to you that I support people in other parts of the world on $1 :eek: please argue with some maturity.