Install a wood burning stove

lukerichardson40

Hello all,

Sorry in advance if this question has been answered before (and I am sure it has, but I cant find it)...

I have a wood burning stove (5kw) which needs fitting. The fire place is opened up and all ready to go. By that I mean soild hearth, no combustables, etc.

The chimney has been cleaned and certified good by a qualified chimney sweep.

All that needs doing is the wood burner needs lifting in to position (which I can do). It then needs the pipe installing (which I have) and then the top sealing with a check plate/heat proof board.

I have been quoted £200. How does that sound to you chaps in the know? The guy is HETAS registered which is good.

Other option is do it myself and get it certified by building control, which I could do, but am unsure of costs... anyone know?

Thanks all.

Luke

thebaldwindowfitter

you cannot do it yourself £200 is nothing for doing the job and if not could void your house insurance

muckybutt

a6windows wrote: »

you cannot do it yourself £200 is nothing for doing the job and if not could void your house insurance

What a load of cobblers, YES you can do it yourself and it wont void your insurance at all !

If you go the diy route then you'll need the local council to come out and pass it off as compliant with building regs, but for £200 I would get it fitted and signed off by the Hetas fitter.

lukerichardson40

Thanks muckybutt... I was a little confused by a6windows comment as I know for a fact you can do it yourself and get the council to inspect.

All I wanted to know was if £200 was a good price and I suspect even though the work itself wont cost £200, the fact it is certified is what I am paying for, and that is fine by me.

Thanks.

thebaldwindowfitter

The best person to install a woodburning stove is a Hetas Registered Installer who is trained and can issue the required Hetas Certificate of Compliance. However, if you wish to fit it yourself, or have a trusted, but unregistered, builder do the job, you can do so just as long as you follow the correct procedure:

For an unregistered person to install a woodburning stove, flue liner, hearth, flue system or anything between and including hearth and chimney pot, plans have to be submitted to, and passed by, your Local Council's Building Control Department.

When the work has been completed, Building Control have to pass off the job as satisfactory and then issue the Hetas Certificate. Councils charge for this. Costs vary and can run into hundreds of pounds.

You will also need to supply and fix a Data Plate specifying the work done and any limitations of use. This is a legal requirement. Sample Data Plates can be found on the in Building Regulation Document J.

Either way you must obtain the Hetas Certificate of Compliance for your Home Information Pack. Your insurance company, also, will require it in the event of a fire claim.

sorry speed typing ment to say that you cant do it yourself for £200.yes it can void your insurance if you diy fit and its signed off by council if you fit something unseen then council has a get out which most of your chimney stack is hidden id rather sleep safe at night and pay

lukerichardson40

Thanks a6windows, very comprehensive and answered everything I need to know, appreciate it!

There is a reason these people do the installs and as I said, I am paying for the certificate to some degree (as well as their experience). And as you rightly say I would also rather sleep safe and pay them to do it.

I would be happy to do the work myself, but as you say it will cost more for the council to inspect then why bother. It wouldnt be any less safe, just more costly.

Thanks again!

muckybutt

a6windows wrote: »

For an unregistered person to install a woodburning stove, flue liner, hearth, flue system or anything between and including hearth and chimney pot, plans have to be submitted to, and passed by, your Local Council's Building Control Department.

Not correct again i'm afraid.

Planning permission / plans for installing a stove are not required, well not required in the three different counties I have lived in so far !

It is advisable to contact the council BR dept before the install goes ahead and during the install so they can check it, and sign off when it is complete.

thebaldwindowfitter

Not correct again i'm afraid.

Planning permission / plans for installing a stove are not required, well not required in the three different counties I have lived in so far !

customer applying for a Building Notice from their Local Authority taken from here http://www.hetas.co.uk/consumer/regulations/

and you are obviously sure that these conditions dont apply taken from

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CHoQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.edinburgh.gov.uk%2Fdownload%2Fdownloads%2Fid%2F4175%2Fdomestic_wood_burning_stoves_and_biomass_boilers&ei=HYiuUIjJKaTE0QXd_oHoCA&usg=AFQjCNFAavRV3LClN_WHl53Xt1QoyGioOg



Wood Burning Stoves -
Wood burning stoves are covered by Class 2 -1 of the General Permitted Development Order 1992.
Planning permission for a flue for a wood burning stove will be required if:
(a) any part of the dwellinghouse would as a result of the works, exceed the height of the highest part of the existing roof;
(b) any part of the dwellinghouse would, as a result of the works, extend 10 centimetres beyond the plane of any existing roof slope;
(c) the roof area of the enlargement exceeds 10% of the roof area of the dwelling house before development;
(d) any roofing material used would materially affect the external appearance of the dwellinghouse;
(e) the dwelling house is in a Conservation Area.
In all these cases, a planning application is required.

llandyrnog

Hi, I assume the chimney is an existing one so plannng permission would not be needed. Possibly if the original poster was constructing a new chimney then planning would be requires as it would change the appearance of the property

lukerichardson40

I can confirm the chimney is original and is not being altered at all. All that has happened is the old bricked up fire place has been opened up and a wood burning is getting fitted in the gap where an open fire used to be.

Thanks everyone.

suisidevw

So does that £200 include register plate etc?