Parking ticket from UK CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LIMITED

MrsE_2

My boyfriend parked for 5-10 mins outside my daughters tonight & upon returning to his car had a parking charge.
£100 (or £60 if paid within 14 days) for parking in a non designated area.
It's from UK CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LIMITED, PO BOX 4760, WORTHING, BN11 9NR.
Does he have to pay this?

Monday 11 Feb 13

Got a bailiffs letter on Saturday, from NEWLYN PLC saying my BF owes them £209.44 (£172.00 penalty charge & £37.44 fees).
Bailiffs will be visiting with the next 14 days to remove goods including motor vehicles - goods may be removed in your absence :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
Must phone 01604 633001 immediately.

Are they likely to turn up & seize goods?

taffy056

No tell him to ignore them, this is an illegal penalty charge, and does not reflect any losses they have suffered, if he's the RK of the vehicle he can safely ignore, there is other things that could be done but it takes time and effort, but will cost the scammers money.

NotanIdiot

Yea, chuck it in the bin, its unenforceable rubbish, as will be the rest of the toothless threats they'll send you. Dont encourage them by contacting them, because it'll cost them £2.50 just to find out who you are, not that that does them any good. They have no legal authority to demand money and no legitimate way to make you pay.

Coupon-mad

I think this might be the old rogue clampers who were called CPM:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?307027-Clamped-by-CPM

If you look at their website they use the logo 'CPM' and apparently they are yet another claiming to be 'the fastest growing car park management company in the industry'!! :rotfl:

There are plenty of spelling mistakes as you'd expect from a knuckle-dragging clamper firm so maybe I am correct that this is 'CPM' morphed into rogue ticketers:

http://www.uk-carparkmanagement.co.uk/aboutus.php

And clearly most of their services are trumpeted as 'free of charge to the client'. Therefore the only income they get is from the 'tickets' that naive idiots actually pay (harsh but true). So it's not a genuine pre-estimate of loss which is the only way that a BPA member can try to extort a 'PCN', if they can show it as a genuine loss. Talking of the BPA, none of the columns are ticked under their name in the AOS members list:

http://www.britishparking.co.uk/AOS-Members

So I think they are indeed new to fake ticketing and to BPA AOS membership. If that is the case then they probably cannot yet obtain DVLA data of registered keepers so DO NOT APPEAL, DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR DETAILS!!

First email should be to the DVLA to ask if this firm are able to get DVLA registered keeper data yet. Scan or take a close-up photo of your ticket and the sign on site if you can get a pic, and send in an urgent email enquiry to the DVLA to ask if this bunch of ex-clampers can get data yet:

[EMAIL="FOI@dvla.gsi.gov.uk"]FOI@dvla.gsi.gov.uk[/EMAIL]

If the DVLA say they can then no worries, just ignore the letters they will send the registered keeper, as long as that's a family member. If they cannot get data then they can't follow it up at all, there is no comeback whatsoever! Please let us know what the DVLA say but either way you will NOT be paying this fake PCN.





HTH

prosnap

The whole private parking business relies on misrepresentation of authority. They are not the council, police or government, so they can't legally issue fines or penalties. All they have sent you is a civil invoice, which you have no legal obligation to pay or acknowledge.

Contacting them is generally a waste of time, their appeals process is worthless as it is not run by an impartial third party but rather by themselves so it's obviously within their interest to reject it.



Over 99.9% of the time they will not take you to court, because the more times they take people to court, and lose,the more chance that other members of the public get to hear that the invoices can be ignored. This would then lead to parking companies having no income because there would be no more gullible people left!

Taking people to court actually hurts their business ... Which is why they hardly ever try it.



Out of the 1.8 million private parking invoices issuedlast year only 49 were heard before a court and the parking companies lost halfof those.

MrsE_2

Coupon-mad wrote: »

I think this might be the old rogue clampers who were called CPM:

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?307027-Clamped-by-CPM

If you look at their website they use the logo 'CPM' and apparently they are yet another claiming to be 'the fastest growing car park management company in the industry'!! :rotfl:

There are plenty of spelling mistakes as you'd expect from a knuckle-dragging clamper firm so maybe I am correct that this is 'CPM' morphed into rogue ticketers:

http://www.uk-carparkmanagement.co.uk/aboutus.php

And clearly most of their services are trumpeted as 'free of charge to the client'. Therefore the only income they get is from the 'tickets' that naive idiots actually pay (harsh but true). So it's not a genuine pre-estimate of loss which is the only way that a BPA member can try to extort a 'PCN', if they can show it as a genuine loss. Talking of the BPA, none of the columns are ticked under their name in the AOS members list:

http://www.britishparking.co.uk/AOS-Members

So I think they are indeed new to fake ticketing and to BPA AOS membership. If that is the case then they probably cannot yet obtain DVLA data of registered keepers so DO NOT APPEAL, DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR DETAILS!!

First email should be to the DVLA to ask if this firm are able to get DVLA registered keeper data yet. Scan or take a close-up photo of your ticket and the sign on site if you can get a pic, and send in an urgent email enquiry to the DVLA to ask if this bunch of ex-clampers can get data yet:

[EMAIL="FOI@dvla.gsi.gov.uk"]FOI@dvla.gsi.gov.uk[/EMAIL]

If the DVLA say they can then no worries, just ignore the letters they will send the registered keeper, as long as that's a family member. If they cannot get data then they can't follow it up at all, there is no comeback whatsoever! Please let us know what the DVLA say but either way you will NOT be paying this fake PCN.





HTH

Thank you :-)
I can't contact DVLA today, I'm off to Mexico - waiting to board plane :-) got the ticket last night.

See what's on the mat when I return ;-)

Thank you all.

Funny thing is, he really was only 5-10 mins (tops) & their own policy states after 15 minutes - to give people time to get to flat/house & get visitors pass off resident.

However he parked alongside the kerb not in a bay while he ran in, they prob would have ticketed regardless......

peter_the_piper

The ppc is a member of the AOS but their entry is not ticked in any box so not sure if dvla access is available.

Feedles

Hi, I got parking ticket on my car from UK Car Park Management Ltd from Worthing, before Christmas. I appealed straight away and sent my appeal by recorded delivery. I have just received a reply back in a second class envelope to say I have been unsuccessful. I had been visiting a friend in Chichester and her house and she gave me a visitors parking permit to put in my windscreen but I still have a ticket. After reading the other threads here should I pay this ticket???? I am very worried about this. Please can someone reply soon. Thanks so much

gwynhughes

It's a scam, please ignore any correspondance you receive from these scammers, and don't worry!

ManxRed

No you shouldn't pay this ticket, its an unenforceable penalty.

Just ignore them from now on. No court action will happen, no CCJ, no bailiffs, no damaged credit record, nothing.

Just some scary threatening letters which you should file away safely and ignore.

Feedles

Thanks you two for the quick response I have been so worried about this. Do I need to report these people to anyone? Or should I let "sleeping dogs lye" so to speak.
Phew