Housing Benefit under occupancy Help

nannytone_2

princessdon wrote: »

Mazza I know you have your views and they are based on your family and immediate family and area you live in, but ...

the wider picture is that SH is as rare as they come.

My neice pays £200 pm for a flat share with 3 others (2 double bedrooms, 2 partners), this is over a well known fast food outlet in the town centre.

£800 pm for a 2 bed in that area.

She bids on every home going, won't ever get there unless she has children to make her a priority.

Anyone who has access to SH really needs to consider this beneficial and worth holding on to, if they don't please believe me there are many who can and will be willing to swap.

Do SH claimants not realise it is really what a blessing it is?


If it's not and available to all, can I have a 4 bed in Islington please as the rental is less than my OH (now his company as is now employee not contractor) pays for a 1 bed shared ammenity rate in the private sector.

so shes wanting a 1 bed flat?

they are really hard to come by you know!

Morlock

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Perhaps you could explain what these numbers, seemingly plucked out of thin air, mean?

You suggested that a shared-care parent can stay put and pay the bedroom tax ('a few extra quid a week') to keep a spare room:

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Plenty of fathers who want that second bedroom for the odd overnight stay by their children. I'm sure that's worth a few quid a week for a responsible parent.

The figures highlight how that would affect a responsible, shared care parent claiming JSA and Housing Benefit.

£71 per week (JSA amount if assuming over 25) - £14 per week (the estimated average reduction for bedroom tax on a single person having one spare room) = £58 per week (of JSA left to spend after the HB deduction for having a spare room)

An under 25, shared care parent would be left with £39 of JSA per week after bedroom tax.

lighting_up_the_chalice

Morlock wrote: »

You suggested that a shared-care parent can stay put and pay the bedroom tax ('a few extra quid a week') to keep a spare room:



The figures highlight how that would affect a responsible, shared care parent claiming JSA and Housing Benefit.

£71 per week (JSA amount if assuming over 25) - £14 per week (the estimated average reduction for bedroom tax on a single person having one spare room) = £58 per week (of JSA left to spend after the HB deduction for having a spare room)

An under 25, shared care parent would be left with £39 of JSA per week after bedroom tax.

Well, they're going to have to budget for the change or move to somewhere they CAN afford, aren't they? Those are the choices faced by anyone with such a change in circumstances.

barnaby-bear

Morlock wrote: »

You suggested that a shared-care parent can stay put and pay the bedroom tax ('a few extra quid a week') to keep a spare room:



The figures highlight how that would affect a responsible, shared care parent claiming JSA and Housing Benefit.

£71 per week (JSA amount if assuming over 25) - £14 per week (the estimated average reduction for bedroom tax on a single person having one spare room) = £58 per week (of JSA left to spend after the HB deduction for having a spare room)

An under 25, shared care parent would be left with £39 of JSA per week after bedroom tax.

If they are a shared care parent they should be getting a proportion of the child benefit etc. and/or maintenance if there's a differential between parental incomes. But honestly shouldn't the priority be ensuring a child has a bedroom at all, for access visits staying on a blow-up on a saturday night is far better than another child stuck in b&b

mazza111

barnaby-bear wrote: »

If they are a shared care parent they should be getting a proportion of the child benefit etc. and/or maintenance if there's a differential between parental incomes. But honestly shouldn't the priority be ensuring a child has a bedroom at all, for access visits staying on a blow-up on a saturday night is far better than another child stuck in b&b

They don't though. Should doesn't mean it's so.

Just like I don't see why people should move or pay extra for the 2 bedrooms they have when that's what they've been allocated and there are no smaller properties available.

Yes we're gonna need to do it, doesn't mean we have to like it. Doesn't mean we shouldn't pay it under protest and shout as loud as we can about it.

nannytone_2

my council are srtill allocating 1 bed properties to singles .... theyre warning about the bedroom tax ....

but say they have nothing smaller to offer.. but habe 2 bed places for immediate rental

lighting_up_the_chalice

nannytone wrote: »

my council are srtill allocating 1 bed properties to singles .... theyre warning about the bedroom tax ....

but say they have nothing smaller to offer.. but habe 2 bed places for immediate rental

As long as the tenant is aware of the implications, why not?

nannytone_2

si it isnt people under occypying that ctually bothers you then?

what about all the poor overcrowded families that you were harping on about before?

or is it people getting houcing benefit and having the nerve to have an extra bedroom .... even if its not through chouce?

on the whole, the people accepting these 2 bedroom places arent in work at the moment, and so cant afford to rent privately.... because all the private lets are also 2 bed and would mean they would have to pay an even greater top up.

people like you wont be happy until the unemployes/sick/disabled have to resort to eating bread and water and lighting their homes with candles!

i said before that i hope youre never in my situation.
i take that back.
i hope you are and i hope your life is as much of a struggle as mine is .... maybe then you wont be so eager to brush other peoples lives under the carpet

princessdon

nannytone wrote: »

so shes wanting a 1 bed flat?

they are really hard to come by you know!

Depends on your area, it is a 2 bed she wants as there are 4 adults and it's 2/3 bed's in our area that are higher in demand.

nannytone_2

ive never heard of a council offering tenancies to 2 couples in one property