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  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,762 Forumite
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    edited 30 November 2012 at 12:43PM
    Your mother is living in the flat but she has no income or savings at all?
    She receives no benefits?
    How does she eat, pay council tax, pay her utility bills...?
    This simply does not make sense!
  • She must have some income of her own.

    Or are you saying she has now, but won't if she co-habits?
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  • margaretclare
    margaretclare Posts: 10,789 Forumite
    She must have some income of her own.

    Or are you saying she has now, but won't if she co-habits?

    This is one of life's eternal mysteries. Several of us have asked the same question before and there hasn't been an answer. Which is why I opined that it would be better to get the answer from Mum herself, rather than at second hand.
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  • elyag
    elyag Posts: 14 Forumite
    there's no point in my continually quoting and answering the same questions over and over. I just wanted a quick "no theres nothing you can do" answer, i have gotten my answer. Im surprised at the accusational response here. Forums are for finding out things you don't know, which is why i posted which i sincerely regret now. thank you to those with helpful replies.
    I have never wanted anyone to fraud the system...that was clearly the point in asking advice publicly, otherwise I would've just advised her to lie in the first place.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    elyag wrote: »
    there's no point in my continually quoting and answering the same questions over and over. I just wanted a quick "no theres nothing you can do" answer, i have gotten my answer. Im surprised at the accusational response here. Forums are for finding out things you don't know, which is why i posted which i sincerely regret now. thank you to those with helpful replies.
    I have never wanted anyone to fraud the system...that was clearly the point in asking advice publicly, otherwise I would've just advised her to lie in the first place.

    As I said earlier in the thread, you'd be in a stronger position to deny fraudulent intent if you hadn't asked, in your very first post.

    " Also, if this is the case, is there a way round it?"
  • debrag
    debrag Posts: 3,426 Forumite
    edited 30 November 2012 at 4:43PM
    elyag wrote: »
    I repeat, SHE IS NOT OF PENSION AGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    yes it is true you can find things without the internet....but at the same time, why is this forum here?! I thought it was so people could ask about things they didn't know and gain advice....like i said, I am a child trying to help my mum. thats all. true i couldve said, go find out yourself but what daughter does that?!!!!

    Have I missed the part about why she isn't working or claiming JSA (can't be bothered to re-read the thread)? Can you not claim JSA if you owned a property or has she never worked so hasn't paid any NI
  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    elyag wrote: »
    there's no point in my continually quoting and answering the same questions over and over. I just wanted a quick "no theres nothing you can do" answer, i have gotten my answer. Im surprised at the accusational response here. Forums are for finding out things you don't know, which is why i posted which i sincerely regret now. thank you to those with helpful replies.
    I have never wanted anyone to fraud the system...that was clearly the point in asking advice publicly, otherwise I would've just advised her to lie in the first place.


    The reason many ask the questions is perhaps because there are benefits she COULD be getting... :/
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  • margaretclare
    margaretclare Posts: 10,789 Forumite
    elyag wrote: »
    there's no point in my continually quoting and answering the same questions over and over. I just wanted a quick "no theres nothing you can do" answer, i have gotten my answer. Im surprised at the accusational response here. Forums are for finding out things you don't know, which is why i posted which i sincerely regret now. thank you to those with helpful replies.
    I have never wanted anyone to fraud the system...that was clearly the point in asking advice publicly, otherwise I would've just advised her to lie in the first place.

    I think you misinterpreted the reason why 'forums are here'. Most of the people who post on forums like this are not experts and cannot give a 'yes' or 'no' answer. The place to get that kind of answer would be a government office, the CAB even. The responses you've had reflect the feeling that many people have, from experiences on here and in other places, that those who post asking this kind of question are in some way trying to find a way round the system, of beating the system - even if not overtly fraudulently, in some kind of underhand, slightly dishonest manner.

    It remains a mystery how your mother, a woman in her 50s presumably in good health and owning her own flat, has no income at all of her own, either from employment, from JobSeeker's Allowance, or from any other means. She now proposes moving in with a disabled man and giving away her flat - to you. And therefore you - not she - wants to know if this is possible. No income, no resources, giving away her only asset? I'm not surprised that you've had the kind of response that you complain about.

    From your mother's point of view, what happens if that relationship breaks down? Has she thought of that?
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  • zagfles
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    Dunroamin wrote: »
    As I said earlier in the thread, you'd be in a stronger position to deny fraudulent intent if you hadn't asked, in your very first post.

    " Also, if this is the case, is there a way round it?"
    How does that imply fraudulent intent? It might do - but it's quite an assumption. What if someone asked if there was a way round paying tax on savings, would that imply fraudulent intent?
  • I think the saying "no good deed goes unpunished" certainly applies here! People are trying to help you, based on the info you have given them. They are also asking, how does your mother manage if she doesn't claim benefits, doesn't work, and doesn't have any income.

    As others have said, they are trying to advise what your mother could get, but you are studiously ignoring the question of how your Mum exists, and shouting and throwing your toys out of the pram!

    It would appear that all you want to know is if your Mum could give you her flat, she could move in with her friend, and then she could claim benefits. If people had just replied "no she can't", you would then have interpreted their replies as being curt and probably asked why not.

    People are giving you the benefit of their own experience and it would be nice if this was received and thanked graciously.

    xx
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