Benefit of 100% attendance at work?

notanewuser

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

No as I know how unions work but they can not work for 200 staff in one firm who all get different pay, different holidays, different terms etc.

Dear, oh dear.

MissSarah1972

notanewuser wrote: »

Dear, oh dear.

I take it from your comment that a union can get everyone equal pay, the same holidays and all the same benefits?

suited-aces

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

No as I know how unions work but they can not work for 200 staff in one firm who all get different pay, different holidays, different terms etc.

Not if no-one joins they can't. But if all 200 join, and collectively demand some common terms such as improved sick pay, then I guarantee it'll work. If that is repeated across the country, then the TUC demand improved laws on sick pay, I guarantee that'll work too.

I can also guarantee that whining and moan about someone else getting better terms than you, even though their terms are entirely reasonable and are just what any decent employer would provide, will not work.

suited-aces

Of course, you're free to believe what the murdoch press is telling you about evil unions, and overpaid staff, because he and his fellow wealthy businessmen have no incentive to stop you demanding better terms and conditions that might eat slightly into their profits, do they?

MissSarah1972

I don't buy a newspaper.

suited-aces

Their message is insidious.

MissSarah1972

suited-aces wrote: »

Their message is insidious.

I have no idea, don't read or buy a paper

marybelle01

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

I have seen admin jobs advertsied at £25k plus.

So just to be clear about it. Is your gripe that people get paid £25k AND get sick pay? Or that nobody has offered to employ YOU in the NHS on £25k and sick pay? If you think you are better than those working in the NHS, then stop whinging and prove it - get a job with them.

marcada wrote: »

My wife think I should also fake my sickness sometimes and take advantage, so that I can get over this resentment.

I have a better suggestion to help you get over your resentment. Grow up.

If you have never, in your entire working life, been sick enough to need to take time off sick, then how very fortunate you are. And if you remain so fit and healthy for the entire of the rest of your working life, then even more fortunate. Not everyone is quite so fortunate in life as you, and if their GP / consultant or whatever thinks they are not fit for work, then who are you to decide otherwise? I do hope that if you ever do get too sick to work, that it is with something extremely serious and very obvious, because it would be just awful if YOUR colleagues went whinging to everyone they know, and on line, and to management, complaining that you aren't really sick and you are just swinging the lead. So do be sure that your illness is obvious or that's just what your colleagues might do.

ILW

notanewuser wrote: »

Bit hard to stop NHS staff getting sick though. They're surrounded by sick people all day long! And if you don't let them have time off to recover, they spread it to other staff and patients. Not clever.

This of course doesn't apply to sickies.

Many NHS staff never go anywhere near a patient, let alone one with an infectious disease.

miduck

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

I have seen admin jobs advertsied at £25k plus.

You do talk some rubbish. £25,000 is a band 6 (or a band 5 with several years service), the only "administrators" you get at grade 6 are also managers and/ or have significant decision making/ budgetary powers. That is pretty poor pay for the responsibility involved.