G24 Ltd Contractual Parking Charge Notice..

trisontana

Don't forget that the only money they can claim off you is the actual loss that's been suffered by the landowner, not the stupid amount they are quoting. This is why very, very few cases go to court. Stop worrying!

SodG24

abbo wrote: »

I've had the G24 letter for overstaying in a Toys R Us car park. After reading this thread, I'm planning to ignore it. But...

I know it is a big IF, but surely they could take you to the small claims court at little cost to themselves. I'm concerned that they could do this and win given that there are signs in place at the car park.

I've read that they would only be able to go for the amount of money they've lost out on (eg. the cost of an extra hour in a pay and display car park), but how would that work if the parking is free for the initial period?

Also, what sort of legal costs would be incurred to defend it?

I know the court action is a very big IF, but it sounds like it is still a small risk.

G24 don't do court.

Half_way

I've read that they would only be able to go for the amount of money they've lost out on (eg. the cost of an extra hour in a pay and display car park), but how would that work if the parking is free for the initial period?

It would work in exactly the same way, if a pay and display car park charge £0.80p per hour, and you overstayed an hour you should offer the parking company, or even better the land owner/car park owner 80p to compensate them for their loss caused by your actions as a full and final settlement. If the overtay was 2 hours then its £1.80


so for a free car park lets use the same logic: cost of parking for an hour £0.00, overtay in hours mulitplied by cost = your liability so £0.00x1hour = £0.00

Coupon-mad

abbo wrote: »

Also, what sort of legal costs would be incurred to defend it?

None because you do not use a Solicitor to defend a Small Claim, it's designed to be a 'people's Court' a simple process where a person or firm says 'oi this guy owes me £xx' and the defendant says 'no I don't because'. That's it so if a PPC tried a small claim all it would cost to defend is your time - and you would win. Just so you know, people who lose are liable for capped costs of about £50 expenses and a £30 or so Court fee on top of whatever the amount is.

But you wouldn't lose a defended case against a PPC like G24! :rotfl:

And the answer is even more definitely none, because it won't happen. G24 do not do Court, just tick off their letters like you would an obvious phishing email string, most of us here have been there done that and nothing happens:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2329119

Tick off each matching letter, it's like playing snap. I have done it and it's amusing.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/58044531#Comment_58044531

That last link just saves me retyping the same response I give to most newbies! Stop reading something into this scam as if it's a real parking ticket. Calm down!

HTH

Smokster

Received 2nd reminder letter from g24 today for over staying free parking at homebase. How many letters do they usually send...over wat period of time. I am ignoring them but it turns my stomach a little with worry when they come through the door.

Stroma

Don't let it worry you, there will be series of letters begging you for money then it will stop, why not play snap with them ? Look for the scammers writing to you then predict the next one

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2214803

SodG24

Smokster wrote: »

Received 2nd reminder letter from g24 today for over staying free parking at homebase. How many letters do they usually send...over wat period of time. I am ignoring them but it turns my stomach a little with worry when they come through the door.

They seem to give up at about letter 4 or 5. That said the second time my car got one of these they gave up after two but I suspect that's because my registration had been marked as a non-mug :rotfl:

faumes

The registered keeper doesn't 'have to' do anything at all. These fake PCNs are as unenforceable as they ever were - it's just that these scam firms are now able to aim their threatogams at the registered keeper if they are not informed who the driver was.

A SUMMARY:

As far as private parking ticket scams are concerned, for a vehicle where you or family are the registered keeper*:

Any fake PCN issued for an incident up until 30th Sept 2012 = IGNORE IT.

Any fake PCN issued for an incident from 1st October 2012 onwards:

- if you were parked in Scotland or NI = IGNORE IT.

- if your 'ticket' is from a firm who are NOT members of the BPA AOS, or are one of five AOS members currently banned from getting data = IGNORE IT.

- if your 'ticket' is from a non-banned by the DVLA!! AOS member in England/Wales, there are 2 choices:

a) IGNORE IT, as ever, playing snap with the threatograms that match our sticky thread 'PPC letter chains' (near the top of this parking forum),

Hi,
thank you for the information, but I'm still worried. Yesterday I've received a fine from Park Direct UK for waiting my wife at one of the parking bays at the well-known (for these cases) Ealing Broadway station. The event took place exactly two months ago and I do remember it well because, while I was waiting in my car, I noticed a girl apparently listening music with her iPhone (or something) behind my car. In fact she was taking a picture of my car, so I went immediately to her and complain about that.
Do you think that this lady employed by Park Direct's testimony, coould make the fine enforceable?:(
I must admit, too, that the signs at Ealing Broadway car park are clearly visible.

Also, what does it mean PPC and how do I know whether a BSA-approved company was banned by DVLA?

Thanks a lot!

ManxRed

No private company can issue a 'fine' only a court can do that.

They have issued you with an invoice inviting you to pay a sum of money for breaching the terms and conditions of a contract.

As the legal remedy for breaching a contract is the actual financial losses suffered, and the landowner's loss in this case is zero, you legally owe them zero.

That's before we even get to the thorny subject of whether Park Direct own the land in question - if they don't then they can't even form a contract with a driver in the first place.

Ignore them.

faumes

ManxRed wrote: »

No private company can issue a 'fine' only a court can do that.

They have issued you with an invoice inviting you to pay a sum of money for breaching the terms and conditions of a contract.

As the legal remedy for breaching a contract is the actual financial losses suffered, and the landowner's loss in this case is zero, you legally owe them zero.

That's before we even get to the thorny subject of whether Park Direct own the land in question - if they don't then they can't even form a contract with a driver in the first place.

Ignore them.

So, they don't have any ground to sue me in a court, do they?