EU National Entitled to Any Government Help When Moving to UK?

clearingout

xylophone wrote: »

Their children?

I take it that you are paying your solicitor? In which case, why are you having to do the research?

I agree, 'their' children. However, we have two very young children who have not seen their father for 2 years, who have a mum running from the police, possibly with a mental health problem, and a father who is incredibly open about how he and his partner can provide a better home for them than the mother can. That's not a father who sees the children as 'theirs' either, is it?

OP - sorry, you came for benefits advice and have been subjected to me making a lot of assumptions about the situation. I can appreciate your frustration and anger about it all but you really do have to genuinely start to show your ex that your goal is joint parenting, not to take her children from her. To do that you really will need to re-think how you approach things

henry_44

nannytone wrote: »

if youve had no contact with her for 2 years .... how can you clain that she is a bad mother?

you havent seen these children since they were 1 and 2 ......

how traimatised are you trying to make them!!

It was doctors and the police claiming she was a risk to the children

henry_44

clearingout wrote: »

I agree, 'their' children. However, we have two very young children who have not seen their father for 2 years, who have a mum running from the police, possibly with a mental health problem, and a father who is incredibly open about how he and his partner can provide a better home for them than the mother can. That's not a father who sees the children as 'theirs' either, is it?

OP - sorry, you came for benefits advice and have been subjected to me making a lot of assumptions about the situation. I can appreciate your frustration and anger about it all but you really do have to genuinely start to show your ex that your goal is joint parenting, not to take her children from her. To do that you really will need to re-think how you approach things

Thank-you for taking the time to reply. I really do believe in joint parenting. I hope she can get the medical support she requires and we can all work together as parents for the children. I have no intention to take the children from her - my only intention is for the children to be in a more stable and secure environment

clearingout

xylophone wrote: »

Post 1 above gives this information?

there could be more to it than that which is why I was asking. For example, the OP has mentioned the involvement of Social Services in the mum's home country, he has suggested they are at risk in some way and that mum hasn't treated them properly. There may therefore be other clauses attached to the order as a result - which may explain (or not) mum's reluctance to engage with the order.

henry_44

xylophone wrote: »

Post 1 above gives this information?

Thank-you for replying to this question. Yes the high court have made a return order. She has to arrange to return to this country asap with the children as they were taken from their 'habitual residence'

MissMoneypenny

henry_44 wrote: »

back in her own country and has not had a secure home as she has been avoiding the police.

But you just told us this.

henry_44 wrote: »

She is living on benefits in her country.

If she is living on benefits, then the authorities do know where she is.

This isn't making sense now.

Plus when does a solicitor ask the client to find out something to enforce an order?????

henry_44

clearingout wrote: »

there could be more to it than that which is why I was asking. For example, the OP has mentioned the involvement of Social Services in the mum's home country, he has suggested they are at risk in some way and that mum hasn't treated them properly. There may therefore be other clauses attached to the order as a result - which may explain (or not) mum's reluctance to engage with the order.

She has put the children at risk in her country - I don't know the full details (and I am terrified to know) but the solicitor said it is important to get the children returned to England ASAP.

I just want to see my children again and will do anything I can to make the situation easier for her

clearingout

pmlindyloo wrote: »

First of all apologies, badly worded - meant the ex wife to register a self employed when she got here.

The highlighted part doesn't seem to apply, as from OP's perspective the mother seems quite isolated in her own country.

However, I entirely agree that the mother's wishes do not seem to be apparent although from the OP's wording it seems that the 'return order' is for the mother and the children. Hence the appeal.

All sounds very messy to me.

I am wondering though if the mother has been ordered to return to the UK whether this 'order' could be used to secure benefits. No idea really - just thinking out loud

I wonder that as well. I find it hard to believe that they would order mum to return just to take the children from her and put her back on the first plane out of here! You would hope that the OP's solicitor had done his homework on this. It is quite worrying that he/she doesn't seem to have done it, however.

OP - is there provision for Social Services intervention within the Order if she returns?

henry_44

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

But you just told us this.



If she is living on benefits, then the authorities do know where she is.

This isn't making sense now.

Plus when does a solicitor ask the client to find out something to enforce an order?????

My apologies - she said in the court that she could claim benefits in her country and she is being housed but she would not get this in England.

Re-solicitor - I am incredibly frustrated by this too, but feel I must do something to help get them home quicker.

MissMoneypenny

henry_44 wrote: »

All I want is for our children to be safe and happy and I know me and my partner can provide a safe, loving and secure home without the fear they may have experienced in the past 2 years.

"may" have experienced? Have you ever visited your children in the past 2 years?