Do you need a degree to get on?

Sugar_Coated_Owl

They may well get the job but in my experience qualifications aren't everything. You won't know why someone was chosen for the job and not you anyway.

Ted_Bloke

studentphil wrote: »

A degree does not increase like your general intelligence but only your knowledge of a subject.

I suppose my inferior feelings to people with better qualifications than me is coming out.

Just do the job you gotta do now. Do most effective preparation to get degree best you can. Don't worry.

Well there can't be many far more qualified at age 21 so this is about nothing.

'It' (not the degree itself of course) increases you intellectual ability ad gives you instruments and habits of thought and principles and all kinds of stuff, maybe not you scores in intelligence [strike]games [/strike] tests !!!!!! do they matter what does it matter?




Befroe saying goodnight I'll reveal to you one of HIS future moves. Various feelings come out obviously as you say. He will get smarter and make you smarter at hiding them. Then you will be even harder to help. If you give him the chance.

abisnail75

At risk of sounding not very nice, it's coming across that maybe you're not very confident in your abilities when compared to others studentphil. THis is more likely to put an employer off. Confidence in your abilities and committment to learn and improve is worth far more than the qualifications and I can vouch for that as that is what I look for when I'm recruiting.

Believe and it will happen!!!

pinkfluff_2

studentphil wrote: »

I do, yes!!

Get to bed then, silly, instead of worrying about all this!

studentphil

The interview for the jobs I have applied for are next week, so I should hear this week if I have got an interview.

Fingers crossed.

Morglin

No, you don't need a degree to get on - and some degrees are worth more to employers than others.

Many graduates (when I was at work) appeared to lack much common sense - which is more important at the workplace.:rolleyes:

But, you do need to be able to read, write and communicate effectively - and to learn how to do a job pretty quickly.

You can start at the bottom and work your way up.;)

Hope you get an interview, and if you do, take a tip from me - don't waffle at them, don't expound on your theories about everything, just let them ask you questions, and then answer them intelligently.:eek:

Lin

meher

A_Singleton. wrote: »

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:rotfl: :rotfl: o dear my sides are aching :rotfl:

Tam_Lin

I contributed to a thread last night where studentphil was posting, and it got on to the very subject of this thread, so I was surprised to see a separate thread started by him on the subject. I may be bleary-eyed this morning, but it feels like Groundhog Day.

Phil - I think the issues you face in terms of starting a career aren't going to be helped by putting yourself through more academic education when it's not where your gifts lie and which you seem to hate and struggle with even after 3 years of a degree. So don't go down that route. With a degree choice of philosophy, you need to show employers that you are grounded and able to function in the real world. What you need now is work experience. I've never lost out on a job to someone else through not having anything higher than a Masters, and since you seem to aspire to be a penpusher in a timetabling department or whatever, you can do that from where you are now.

Get a job, any job, after your Finals, and maybe some kind of personal development training on the subject of confidence and self-awareness would help, as well as an adult literacy class. That would be a worthwhile investment of your time and money and would put you on the same starting-level as the other applicants. If you're having to ask for advice on this kind of matter (apparently repeatedly if the general frustration I see here is correct), I think you would benefit from an environment where you can increase your confidence and decision-making abilities without having other people to hold your hand. You'll feel more able to cope with a basic job then, instead of chasing mirages. It will also hopefully stop you comparing yourself to an image of others which only exists in your head and which leads to madness and disappointment. Don't be your own worst enemy; give yourself the opportunity to shine. See your life as a supermarket trolley, and make a cool assessment of which 'items' you lack to get by and make yourself well-rounded. Good luck.

Tam_Lin

abisnail75 wrote: »

From the people I know that have MBAs, it's strategic management stuff (if you do a business degree you will cover some of the stuff anyway) but it's most useful if you do it after 5 years experience or so as you can relate it much more easily to the business you're in and how you implement it.

Very sensible advice here; the people I know who have done MBAs have done so in their late twenties, having got their feet wet in the world of work.

Tam_Lin

studentphil wrote: »

I will have to compete in life with people with higher degree(Masters / PhDs) and I probably will never get a higher degree so I need to know if you can compete or not.

Yes you can, and the key things you need to pursue are experience and a well-rounded CV.