Housing trouble

samtoby

The OP needs for the people staying at the property to book appointments with their local LA Housing department to get advice. Even if any party are not in priority they can still give advice on what to do. Or indeed a Local Shelter office.

silverchair

The thing is embob74, theyre not children anymore. They are over 18year olds who should really be working, even if its just a saturday job.

embob74

Absolutely Silverchair and while I do think there are jobs out there and many make excuses not to get one I have 2 older teenagers who struggled to find work and I know of older adults who struggle to find work, particularly full-time permanent work.
This is a great time of year to find work though as temp jobs come up and hopefully lead to a permanent position.

paul2012

Fire_Fox wrote: »

I struggle to believe there was no private rented larger than a bedsit that could be afforded if they were claiming all the benefits they were entitled to, more likely they thought emergency housing was a quick way to get a proper sized council house without having to sit on the waiting list and bid.

Struggle to believe all you like have you seen the prices of private rents? for a 1 bed room flat the minimum around here is £450/£500 if your lucky! affording that and bringing up 4 children with only 1 parent working was clearly too much for them ....... of course if they were on benefits (like the OPs grown up children) then yes they would have been entitled to a whopping £183.46 in housing benefit each week :eek:

LannieDuck

paul2012 wrote: »

Struggle to believe all you like have you seen the prices of private rents? for a 1 bed room flat the minimum around here is £450/£500 if your lucky! affording that and bringing up 4 children with only 1 parent working was clearly too much for them ....... of course if they were on benefits (like the OPs grown up children) then yes they would have been entitled to a whopping £183.46 in housing benefit each week :eek:

Really? Second one on the list for flats in London on Gumtree, £200/wk:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/flats-houses/terrific-value-in-musweell-hill-1-bed-flat/1002342823

4th one down, £275/wk:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/flats-houses/garden-one-bed-flat-separate-kitchen-and-lounge-close-to-northern-line-br-and-clapham-high-street/1002487772

paul2012

LannieDuck wrote: »

Really? Second one on the list for flats in London on Gumtree, £200/wk:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/flats-houses/terrific-value-in-musweell-hill-1-bed-flat/1002342823

4th one down, £275/wk:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/flats-houses/garden-one-bed-flat-separate-kitchen-and-lounge-close-to-northern-line-br-and-clapham-high-street/1002487772

sorry should have mentioned £450/500 is pcm

LannieDuck

paul2012 wrote: »

sorry should have mentioned £450/500 is pcm

lol, that makes a lot more sense :money:My mistake.

Fire_Fox

paul2012 wrote: »

Struggle to believe all you like have you seen the prices of private rents? for a 1 bed room flat the minimum around here is £450/£500 if your lucky! affording that and bringing up 4 children with only 1 parent working was clearly too much for them ....... of course if they were on benefits (like the OPs grown up children) then yes they would have been entitled to a whopping £183.46 in housing benefit each week :eek:

'Around here', did they have to stay in the same area or could they have relocated? The only reason they would have been ineligible for any housing benefit is if that one salary was more than they needed. Sorry but the rules are not mean enough to allow a four child family to live in a bedsit. How did they afford the new council place?

Fire_Fox

embob74 wrote: »

Of course the family should support vulnerable members but it does seem unfair to kick the children out as soon as somebody else needs a room.....particularly as other housing help could have been sought for the other family members.
I also had my own place at 17 - I was given a council flat as they were in abundance unlike nowadays. I also had a job so I could pay all my bills and if I lost my job I could probably have walked into another one. Very few 17 year olds are able to get a full-time job and even if they did they would probably not earn enough to be approved for rental by a letting agent. And if they want to claim housing benefit then when the Universal Credit comes in this will probably be slashed.
Better the boys stay at home and try to get a job and build savings in order to be prepared for a permanent move out of the family home so they don't become the vulnerable ones turning up at the door because they are homeless.

Build savings on what income, neither has got a job? I'm not saying it will be easy, that is part of the point. Jobs may not be in abundance but they do exist for those who have the motivation and put the time in. Where is the motivation when they are living under their parents roof and only one person in the household is working? I'm not being critical by saying that as I appreciate some are unable to work but stating facts: not working could be the norm to these lads.

I also left home at 17 and became a lodger, I didn't expect nor get my own flat. Best thing my parents did was politely ask me to leave, I matured quickly and stopped thinking the world owed me a living. Started out on part time (supermarket cashier, long before minimum wage) but quickly realised I couldn't live on that for any length of time: once I moved to full time work I built up modest savings even on a low training wage. Even tho I lived in a deprived part of London and a lazy tyke it never occurred to me not to work, IMO because my parents generation and their friends all worked, my role models if you like.

You don't need to go through a letting agent for most rooms on shared houses or to be a lodger, many are privately advertised. A room is all the state will fund anyway not a whole flat for a teenager. You don't have to worry about paying all your bills if you live as a lodger or a room in an HMO, the landlord will cover most within the rent so it's just basic budgeting and feeding yourself, a gentle introduction to the adult world. So what if they come back in a couple of years older and wiser?