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Housing trouble

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  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    edited 12 November 2012 at 6:15AM
    JC9297 wrote: »
    To those posters saying the sons should move out and stand on their own feet, it really is not unusual for young people to live with their parents until well over eighteen these days (I get the idea they re not much over 18), and most parents do not send their children packing as soon as they become adults. I think the son with his own family just needs to be told sorry there is no room for you.

    Whilst that is the case, plenty move out at 18 to go to university either permanently or semi permanently. The families priority for a larger council house is relatively low, and there are not enough bedrooms for them to have one each even if everyone else moves out. It's not as simple as 'packing them off' - there are more vulnerable adults in the house. Wouldn't you expect strapping teens to give up their seats for someone older/ weaker/ more vulnerable person if there were insufficient? I don't see this as any different and they might just have a lot more fun that living in this incredibly overcrowded house! :j
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  • LannieDuck
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    Most 18 year olds are keen to get their own place - whether at uni or otherwise. They don't have to move miles away.
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  • Mojisola
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    paul2012 wrote: »
    Maybe she should have got advice BEFORE moving them in? If she's over crowded then she has no one to blame but herself.

    Life doesn't always happen like that. Situations can rapidly come to a head and need dealing with.
  • seven-day-weekend
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    edited 12 November 2012 at 11:15AM
    I can understand why this family want to stay together. You have two vulnerable people (the person with special needs and the penniless pensioner) and two people who, realistically, are not in a position to fund their own place at the moment and also are the main tenant's sons. i would not turn my son out in similar circumstances.

    BUT I don't see why the LA should provide for their lifestyle choices, If they owned their own house and could not afford to move, they would just make do and get on with it.

    I have had five adults living in my small terraced house, when we first came back from Spain. We had a sofa bed in the living room. Needs must sometimes, but there is no necessity for the Local Authority to rehouse anyone, imho. They have a home.

    Or maybe the elderly parent and the special needs cousin could be offered sheltered housing by the LA. But I don't see any need to rehouse them all together.
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  • Mojisola
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    But I don't see any need to rehouse them all together.

    I don't think anyone else does either. The house is overcrowded now but there are ways to deal with it without the council providing a huge house for them.
  • Mojisola wrote: »
    Life doesn't always happen like that. Situations can rapidly come to a head and need dealing with.

    Fair point i agree with you and like the OP said the disabled cousin came to stay after a funeral and never left BUT with the mother she should have asked housing support for advice once she fell into arrears and had the eviction notice not just moved out and assumed everything would be fine as they clearly knew they would be overcrowded.

    How old are your sons OP? are they not old enough to move out?

    Sorry i just find it hard to sympathise with someone who willingly put there self into the situation and now moans that they can not get a bigger house. OP is not the only one in this situation, there are many living in worse conditions than this - I know of one local family who were living in a bedsit with their 4 kids for almost a year before they were offered suitable accommodation and that was only after the local news heard about it and the local MP stepped in.
  • embob74
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    I think it's a bit unfair to tell the boys to leave because other people have come into the household and want their room!! More and more adult children are staying with parents until they are in their 20's (sometimes 30's) as they just cannot afford to move out. Private rents can be very expensive, not to mention the charges and deposits required.
    I doubt the council has a property big enough for the whole household so it may have to be broken up. Are SS involved with the cousin and the MIL's mother? They could help to find assisted accommodation.
  • embob74
    embob74 Posts: 724 Forumite
    paul2012 wrote: »
    Sorry i just find it hard to sympathise with someone who willingly put there self into the situation and now moans that they can not get a bigger house. OP is not the only one in this situation, there are many living in worse conditions than this - I know of one local family who were living in a bedsit with their 4 kids for almost a year before they were offered suitable accommodation and that was only after the local news heard about it and the local MP stepped in.

    If you are overcrowded why would you have more children?
    And the OP's MILs situation is different in that normally children can share a room (and don't think anything of it).
  • rpc
    rpc Posts: 2,353 Forumite
    embob74 wrote: »
    If you are overcrowded why would you have more children?

    1 - Accident
    2 - tried for one and ended up with multiples
    3 - because I want more and I should get them even if someone else has to step in and provide what I can't
  • Ames
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    or 4 - had the kids before ending up in a position to be in a bedsit on the SH waiting list.
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