High risk to Britons in Egypt

PompeyPete

I never said Egypt was stable.
The country hasn't been stable for a long time, but a lot of people with an apparent nervous disposition still seem to choose to book their holidays in the country. If it can 'kick-off' without much notice, then why do they take the risk in the first place?

FCO Travel Advice is quite clear, see #39. Until Sharm etc are deemed 'out of bounds' except for essential travel, then there is little reason for people not to travel there.

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marky_p wrote: »

If you actually believe that Sharm is no safer than say, Homs in Syria, then it's you Sir, that is the clown.

It's funny how forgetful some people are.
If Arab terrorists are capable of assimilating themselves into a foreign country such as the United States, take flying lessons then hijack three airliners and fly two of them into one of the most recognisable buildings in the world don't you think they'd have the ability to drive a car loaded with explosives into Sharm from elsewhere in Eygpyt ?
It's like saying that although London is at a substantial risk of terrorist attack everywhere else in the UK isn't ?
The OP asked how seriously to take the upgraded risk issued by the FCO.
I'm not saying he should cancel his holiday but he should be aware that percentage-wise he is at greater risk in Egypt than elsewhere at the moment and while on holiday there he should take more precuations that if he was on holiday in Lanzarote.

marky_p

Deleted_User wrote: »

It's funny how forgetful some people are.
If Arab terrorists are capable of assimilating themselves into a foreign country such as the United States, take flying lessons then hijack three airliners and fly two of them into one of the most recognisable buildings in the world don't you think they'd have the ability to drive a car loaded with explosives into Sharm from elsewhere in Eygpyt ?
It's like saying that although London is at a substantial risk of terrorist attack everywhere else in the UK isn't ?
The OP asked how seriously to take the upgraded risk issued by the FCO.
I'm not saying he should cancel his holiday but he should be aware that percentage-wise he is at greater risk in Egypt than elsewhere at the moment and while on holiday there he should take more
precuations that if he was on holiday in Lanzarote.

Ah I see, so you're just a racist? Say no more.

Voyager2002

Deleted_User wrote: »

It's funny how forgetful some people are.
If Arab terrorists are capable of assimilating themselves into a foreign country such as the United States, take flying lessons then hijack three airliners and fly two of them into one of the most recognisable buildings in the world don't you think they'd have the ability to drive a car loaded with explosives into Sharm from elsewhere in Eygpyt ?
It's like saying that although London is at a substantial risk of terrorist attack everywhere else in the UK isn't ?
The OP asked how seriously to take the upgraded risk issued by the FCO.
I'm not saying he should cancel his holiday but he should be aware that percentage-wise he is at greater risk in Egypt than elsewhere at the moment and while on holiday there he should take more precuations that if he was on holiday in Lanzarote.

The point was not that they were Arabs, but that they were terrorists. Remember the shoe bomber (Richard Reid): he was about as much of an Arab as David Cameron.

In percentage terms, the risk of being attacked for political reasons while in Sharm is surely lower than that of being mugged and murdered in Florida, and ranks with the risks we all face from traffic accidents in the UK. And yes: road traffic poses a serious risk in many cities in the Middle East, but that is another discussion.

PompeyPete

Terrorism comes in all forms, shapes and sizes...

Terrorism is about terror, frightening the crap out of people, working up a frenzy, and also allowing on-lineTrolls to have a field-day.

...and Tom the Great Sebastian seems to attempting be a sympathiser.:(

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marky_p wrote: »

Ah I see, so you're just a racist? Say no more.

What exactly is racist ?

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Voyager2002 wrote: »

The point was not that they were Arabs, but that they were terrorists. Remember the shoe bomber (Richard Reid): he was about as much of an Arab as David Cameron.

In percentage terms, the risk of being attacked for political reasons while in Sharm is surely lower than that of being mugged and murdered in Florida, and ranks with the risks we all face from traffic accidents in the UK. And yes: road traffic poses a serious risk in many cities in the Middle East, but that is another discussion.

The point is precisely because they were Arab terrorists.
The OP is holidaying in an Arab country.There are Arab terrorists who wish to kill all infidels simply because they are infidels.They exist in Egypt.
Do you actually have the faintest grasp of current affairs ?
The whole point of the FCO raising the risk of terrorist attack in Eygpt is precisely for that reason.
Or do you think the Foreign Office are doing it to pass the time of day ?

pulliptears

How is the bickering in any way helpful to people concerned about flying to Egypt exactly?

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pulliptears wrote: »

How is the bickering in any way helpful to people concerned about flying to Egypt exactly?

I agree.
But I also think it's important that when someone suggests to the OP the Foreign Office is exaggerating the risks when they make a particular assessment of a country this should be corrected.

As recently as two weeks ago the US Embassy in Cairo issued a message about possible terrorist attacks in the Sinai, including Sharm el Sheikh. It advised US citizens travelling to Sharm el Sheikh to avoid unsecured venues that cater to tourists.

I'd much rather leave the judgement to experts than someone who has spent a week sipping pina coladas by an All-Inclusive hotel pool.

Tojo_Ralph

Did anyone else read about last weeks "operation" in Cairo that saw Egyptian security forces "acting on a tip off" raid an apartment block in Nasr City, killing a "militant" and disrupting a "terror cell"?

I just wondered because the word on the streets in Cairo is as follows.

A) Neighbour reports to Police unusual nocturnal activity at recently rented apartment.
Local plod do their thing and go knocking on the door.
C) Local plod are met with gunfire from apartment and retreat.
D) Apartment resident deploys some form of explosive device in his efforts to escape.
E) Apartment resident succeeds only in blowing himself up.
F) Apartment resident also succeeds in burning the apartment block to the ground.
G) Local authority agree to pay apartment block residents 1,000 LE (£100) compensation.
H) Locals report that the apartment resident was an arms/gun runner taking advantage of the post revolution open border with Libya and regional unrest.
I) Newspapers and Goverment sources report the story as it suits their needs and make hay whilst the sun shines