'supporting each other through really tough times'

grandma247

Fuddle I agree with you that sometimes drugs are useful for adhd. My Aussie friend has one her sons on something for when he is in school and sometimes gives him it if they need him to be calm when they go somewhere. It is rare for her to do that but she needs down time occasionally as well as the teachers. She showed me two pictures when she first gave him it. One was a monochrome load of scribble and one was a carefully drawn colourful picture and she said the first was without the drug the second was with. After that I was a little less anti drugging.

My oldest is adhd and not much was known about it when he was little. I quickly learned I had to keep him occupied and an elderly couple told me to take him on the moors above us so he could run and roll and scream and shout as much as he wanted without others hearing him. These children should be re named high energy children and schooling should change for them so it has a mostly physical element. It is amazing how much they can learn whilst moving around.

Ginnyknit your grandson might benefit from one of these. My Aussie friends youngest son who is also autistic has a blanket for over his knees at school and a waistcoat. They seem to keep his body still as he has a problem with where his body is in time and space. Got no idea what that is called.

Oh my goodness I just looked for Boyes stores in my region and found one in Ilkley. I had no idea! I thought they were a north east store. I will be going to have a look there next week.

Softstuff

Mrs_Veg_Plot wrote: »

A widower friend of ours has asked us to go to his house tomorrow for a take away but we went out for a celebration meal on Thursday and cannot really afford it especially as now I need to pay for a CRB check for the new job. I know he does not do a home cooked Sunday roast anymore so I am thinking of inviting him here for a meal instead, This will cost me nothing extra as I already have everything in.

That sounds really lovely Mrs VP, I can't imagine anyone who wouldn't like it.

Anyone have a spare canoe? The rain here is crazy, police are urging people to cancel non-essential travel and many roads are flooded. On the plus side, it's cooler now and we have cookies :rotfl:

grandma247

Softstuff I watched on the news about your rain. It looks terrible. Stay safe.

Softstuff

Thanks Grandma, I'm sure it'll be fine. Hubby is barely concerned at all! One set of his grandfolks live where the worst of the rain hit last night, they said they have the odd leak but they're fine. We're expecting the tale end of the tropical cyclone here shortly, but that sounds worse than it is.

Byatt

All recent history of the treatment of children with special needs. It doesn't give statistics but it does explain the apparent "invisibility" of children who have SEN in education.

http://scotens.org/sen/articles/develofspecialedni.pdf

The 1944 Education Act (UK3) made it the responsibility of the local education authorities to decide whether a child needed special educational treatment. If a child was considered ‘ineducable’ he/she became the responsibility of the Department of Health and Social Services and was not entitled to receive statutory education. The 1947 Act (NI) brought similar legislation to Northern Ireland.
The Education Act of 1947 required local education authorities to determine the special educational needs of children with learning difficulties, that is, children with special needs. Special schools were to be established for the teaching of these children, or, where
the learning difficulties were not too severe, special classes were to be organised within the mainstream education system. By the mid-1970s, over 2,500 pupils were receiving special education in 30 special schools, almost 100 were attending boarding schools

A distinction was made between pupils who required special educational treatment and children unsuitable for education. These children became the responsibility of the Health and Social Services. Although there were a number of special school places for children in the latter group, places were limited and there was no qualification requirement for teachers.

In 1978 the Warnock Report 5 The Education of Handicapped Children and Young People provided the foundation for revolutionary change in thinking about the educational needs of children with special needs. Words like ‘handicapped’ ‘educationally subnormal’ ‘mongol’ etc. were removed and replaced with ‘special educational need’. This broad term was used to cover a wide range of needs which could not be met by teachers alone, working in the mainstream classroom. It did though, emphasize that as many children as possible should be educated in mainstream classes and that provision should be put in place to ensure this.
Following legislative change in the rest of the United Kingdom, the concept of special education needs was introduced into education legislation in disability.
Under these orders Education and Library Boards have a duty to identify and assess children in their area who have special education needs.
Although this order promoted the inclusion of all children with special educational needs in mainstream schools it did allow for provision to be made in mainstream primary or secondary, special units or day or residential special schools.
The education provision for children with disabilities in Northern Ireland was the subject of considerable controversy throughout the 1990s. There was much debate about a choice between the segregation of disabled children in special schools or their inclusion in mainstream schools. Segregated provision was thought by some to result in low expectations. However, others argued that there were more resources in special schools and by not taking advantage of these, a child could suffer in other ways .
In 1991 the UK (including Northern Ireland) adopted the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child 6. Article 23 states the disabled child should have effective access to and receive education which encourages the fullest possible social integration and individual development.
Various piece of legislation in recent years, including The Children (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 have increased the rights of parents to have more choice in the education ...

grandma247

Segregated provision was thought by some to result in low expectations. However, others argued that there were more resources in special
schools and by not taking advantage of these, a child could suffer in other ways .

Not all children benefit from being in mainstream. My sister works in a school with some children with extreme special needs. It is hard to know what they learn because many of them have no speech.

Lumping kids all together has resulted in many children who need extra help being completely ignored and they are being failed big time by the system.

My grandson should have had speech therapy as well as extra help at school. The only time his speech made good progress was when dd went back to work and paid for a private nursery. She could not keep it up long because his being there cost her all her wages so she gave up. She was told he could not have nhs speech therapy until he was eight! Far too late. Aussie friends kids had speech therapy at 18 months and it continues at age 7 and 9.

Byatt

grandma247 wrote: »

Segregated provision was thought by some to result in low expectations. However, others argued that there were more resources in special
schools and by not taking advantage of these, a child could suffer in other ways .

Not all children benefit from being in mainstream. My sister works in a school with some children with extreme special needs. It is hard to know what they learn because many of them have no speech.

Lumping kids all together has resulted in many children who need extra help being completely ignored and they are being failed big time by the system.

My grandson should have had speech therapy as well as extra help at school. The only time his speech made good progress was when dd went back to work and paid for a private nursery. She could not keep it up long because his being there cost her all her wages so she gave up. She was told he could not have nhs speech therapy until he was eight! Far too late. Aussie friends kids had speech therapy at 18 months and it continues at age 7 and 9.

I agree, but I also believe it could work if money was thrown into education to make it so. My DD was initially in mainstream but the biggest problem was bullying (by a teacher also :eek:), not just being made to feel different, name calling ect, but physically being abused...kicked under the desks and so on which the teacher's were awar of, I found out after a TA let it slip! :eek:

So I homeschooled for a while, but DD although auty is very sociable and she was pining to be around children her own age. So a special school was considered although on the surface she looked and could behave "normally" she wanted to go there, and so she did. It made a huge difference to her, but that was as much because of the head teacher who was simply amazing, as anything else.

The ed psych couldn't gurantee she would have playground support in high school, so I knew it it would not work.

Changes have to made not only in education but in society too. And sadly, I don't think it's happening. Legislation is important, vital, but so is society's acceptance and understanding of our children.

grandma247

Totally agree byatt

westcoastscot

We homeschooled - we did look at a special school for youngest but by the time he was ready for school it was closed down.
We had a fantastic plan agreed by teachers/consultants/Ed Psych but at the end of the day it just wasn't happening for him, and he was feeling more "different" in mainstream than he ever had before he went to school. He only did a short while in lower primary, and then we homeschooled, along with his older brother and sister who decided if he was staying home they would! Despite all the negative comments at the time all three are well adjusted, well educated fantastic young adults now whom I'm exceptionally proud of!!!

ginnyknit

I homeschooled Dd for a year as she was bullied unmercifully by a group of 9 kids. The head said 'thats not too bad out of 250 kids' I was shocked and said 'you are not running a bookmakers and 1 is not acceptable. After she ended up in hospital having having a colonoscopy and the psychiatrist put 2 and 2 together we took her out and spent a hard year until she chose a lovely school for herself and got 7 GCSE'e. her problem was dyslexia which made her a target.