Motorists - What annoys you most about cyclists

jb66

custardy wrote: »

doesnt really matter.
you can drive/cycle/walk round Edinburgh any day,and see drivers driving into the ASL

I Do it all the time, it stops cyclists getting in my way

JethroUK

pr0berts wrote: »

Hi,

Motorists - What annoys you most about cyclists

When they stick to my tyres - ha ha ha ha

Flyboy152

brat wrote: »

But motorists speed, motorists drive without due care, motorists are often aggressive for no good reason to cyclists.

But, to be fair, there are often some very good reasons.

And they have the potential to hurt cyclists much more than cyclists ever hurt them.

Something every cyclists need to take heed of.

If you want the right to accuse us cyclists, you also need to sort your fellow motorists out!

Sorry, but the two are not contractually exclusive, In other words, we really should not wait to sort out one, if the other has not been sorted.

Flyboy152

JQ. wrote: »

Feel free to read the Highway Code, you may find it enlightening.

So might you, especially about the bit that discusses what cyclist should do on narrow roads.

steve-L

mr_fishbulb wrote: »

I ride to work sometimes too, and agree with all those.

It's because of dickheads on bikes doing all these things, that the responsible cyclists get a bad name. We're tarred with the same brush.

And then you get people with attitudes shown on this thread thinking it applies to all cyclists.

Partly the references to things like the Highway Code.....
Regardless of if its legal to ride 2 abreast etc. doing so and knowing you are causing inconvenience to others is obviously going to annoy them.

However the best example was illustrated by Boris Johnson.....
TOTAL: disregard for road rules, traffic lights, one way, no cycling.....
RESULT: I'm on a bike so it's OK......

For the rest of us that try and ride responsibly (and also drive a car) I think he should have had the book thrown at him.
When I was learning to drive (a long time ago) my instructor told me that everything else aside my presence on the road shouldn't cause someone else to have to brake, swerve or react.... (roundabouts aside)...... this good practice seems to have been completely lost on many cyclists (ad quite few drivers)....

The idea that because you can you should......
This includes passing in slow traffic, going to the front in traffic lights etc. (Whoever thought that was a good idea as opposed to making a space at the side)

My car can go VERY VERY FAST...(well actually could but its speed limited to 155mph).. it can also out accelerate a bicycle with an olympic cyclist on it 0-20...... does that mean that because I can get to 50 on the 50 limit I can weaves through other cars to get there? My car can go round a bend much faster than a 2 wheel machine (or 90% of four wheel ones) but that doesn't mean its good practice to do it!


Its like cyclists who ride on the pavement or across areas closed to traffic.... if I had a 4x4 why can't I do the same? I could drive over the central reservation (as cyclists often do).... make right turns where there is no right turn and drive over the bollard as the cyclists do every day 50m from my house. I trial bike I can go over the footbridge (where I am forever being intimidated by cyclists who refuse to dismount).....


As a driver I am acutely aware I'm driving a lethal machine....
I'm constantly on the watch for pedestrians .... but when around cyclists I have to divert attention just to the cyclists behaving erratically.

The whole "I'm on a bike attitude" of a minority of cyclists is the problem.....

Regardless of the legal ins and outs..(or even because of) ... its no different to for instance being a member of the <insert whatever here> club and someone issuing a pass to bypass lights or similar.... it will obviously ***-off the other road users.

When cyclists don't follow the rules they set a bad example for every other cyclist...... when they want special rules this will of course leave a bad taste....

Dave_C_2

steve-L wrote: »

Partly the references to things like the Highway Code.....

Annoying isn't it when cyclists quote the highway code, even though as a group we allegedly haven't read it?

In most cases this is to correct the views of some drivers who don't know the relevant rules. Even though they have passed the driving test based on the same Highway Code.

I trust that the irony of this reversal is not lost on those that comment on here.:)

Dave

derrick

Dave_C wrote: »

Annoying isn't it when cyclists quote the highway code, even though as a group we allegedly haven't read it?

In most cases this is to correct the views of some drivers who don't know the relevant rules. Even though they have passed the driving test based on the same Highway Code.

I trust that the irony of this reversal is not lost on those that comment on here.:)

Dave

Problem is, cyclists are not compelled to pass a test or to read the HC, (as drivers are), before venturing onto the roads, and from what I see, most don't bother with the HC as they very rarely are brought to book for their actions.

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malcumms7898

I think certainly the whole going through traffic lights is annoying. They can be quite troublesome at roundabouts too - although I wouldn't ever want to cycle round a roundabout on a bike in all honesty.

steve-L

derrick wrote: »

Problem is, cyclists are not compelled to pass a test or to read the HC, (as drivers are), before venturing onto the roads, and from what I see, most don't bother with the HC as they very rarely are brought to book for their actions.

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Some do....usually the ones who drive as well.

However the real point is being quoted the highway code as justification for unsafe cycling, be it 2 abreast on a blind bend or pushing through traffic only to fall putting on cleats/toeclips is obviously going to annoy motorists.....ALL OF WHOM have had to take a test.

dave_c wrote:

In most cases this is to correct the views of some drivers who don't know the relevant rules.

Hm...... often it seems its as much about "we can do that"

The cyclist is riding perfectly legally and as drivers you should stay behind until it is safe for you to overtake. HC rule 163

As a cyclist you should try and ride safely and not obstruct traffic.

This is no different from driving a car along in a car looking for a turning.... doing 20 in a 50 zone.... the safe and polite thing to do is pull over and let people pass safely.

Dave_C_2

In reply to my post (my emphasis)

Annoying isn't it when cyclists quote the highway code, even though as a group we allegedly haven't read it?

In most cases this is to correct the views of some drivers who don't know the relevant rules. Even though they have passed the driving test based on the same Highway Code.

I trust that the irony of this reversal is not lost on those that comment on here.

derrick wrote: »

Problem is, cyclists are not compelled to pass a test or to read the HC, (as drivers are), before venturing onto the roads, and from what I see, most don't bother with the HC as they very rarely are brought to book for their actions.

It was too much to hope for

Dave