Motorists - What annoys you most about cyclists

spadoosh

Another sterling example of some exemplary driving!

Just happened on my way home, about a 15 minute journey!

Incident one:
Proceeding down a road on the left hand side. Cars parked down the right, leaving one lane. About halfway down I notice a car turning into this road from the T junction ahead. I'm assuming she either didn't see me (lights on and flashing, not really too dark) or she just didn't care. She then decides to overtake the parked cars and drive straight at me! Literally no where to go, fortunately by the time she nearly hit me she either noticed me or realised I was on the road and stopped her car. So had to mount the kerb to get out of her way.

Incident two:
Travelling along a main road no traffic (except me) on my (know its not mine but hope you know what I mean) side of the road and queuing traffic on the right. A gentleman decides to overtake the queuing traffic (again driving straight at me!?) to turn right down a side road. Fortunately (again) he decide to stop before turning (incidentally someone was waiting to come out of side road so he couldn't have fit/gone down it) I (once again) had to avoid hitting his wing mirror and go on the kerb to get out of his way!

Stuff like this happens on every single trip! About to order my helmet cam and ill post a few vids within 2 weeks of getting it! See how many times I !!!! up and see how many times a car !!!!s up!? I just can't comprehend why some people do what they do!

Rant over (till 9.30 tomorro....if I make it!!!)

custardy

spadoosh wrote: »

Another sterling example of some exemplary driving!

Just happened on my way home, about a 15 minute journey!

Incident one:
Proceeding down a road on the left hand side. Cars parked down the right, leaving one lane. About halfway down I notice a car turning into this road from the T junction ahead. I'm assuming she either didn't see me (lights on and flashing, not really too dark) or she just didn't care. She then decides to overtake the parked cars and drive straight at me! Literally no where to go, fortunately by the time she nearly hit me she either noticed me or realised I was on the road and stopped her car. So had to mount the kerb to get out of her way.

Incident two:
Travelling along a main road no traffic (except me) on my (know its not mine but hope you know what I mean) side of the road and queuing traffic on the right. A gentleman decides to overtake the queuing traffic (again driving straight at me!?) to turn right down a side road. Fortunately (again) he decide to stop before turning (incidentally someone was waiting to come out of side road so he couldn't have fit/gone down it) I (once again) had to avoid hitting his wing mirror and go on the kerb to get out of his way!

Stuff like this happens on every single trip! About to order my helmet cam and ill post a few vids within 2 weeks of getting it! See how many times I !!!! up and see how many times a car !!!!s up!? I just can't comprehend why some people do what they do!

Rant over (till 9.30 tomorro....if I make it!!!)

to add balance
I got forced up on the kerb by a Merc, pushing through in the same manner the other day.
except I was in the car!

spadoosh

custardy wrote: »

to add balance
I got forced up on the kerb by a Merc, pushing through in the same manner the other day.
except I was in the car!

Exactly! Same answer! Motorists can be bell ends!

NBLondon

brat wrote: »

If I have to weave, I weave. As you already know, I don't cross pelicans when I shouldn't. I don't know why you insist that I do.

I guess it was when you said

This cyclist inconvenienced nobody.

and

Yes your cyclist's breaking the law, dum-de-dum. If caught he may get a ticket. But he's not being unsafe.

and

You can if it seems right to you, ie if it fits into your moral landscape.

made me suspect you were the sort of cyclist who justifies breaking the law in their own mind. I'm prepared to take you at face value when you say you follow the rules.

And when I pointed out cases where this behaviour from some cyclists does inconvenience pedestrians and is dangerous...

Ok, so on your very own pedestrian crossing, cyclists buzz you within half an inch of your briefcase. If you say so...

you decide to not believe it because it doesn't fit your world view.

Not only do the !!!!!! cyclists on the road tar the image of the reasonable, considerate ones - the arrogant ones on t'internet do the same;)

Macca83_2

Cyclists that travel in a big pack, taking up the whole road as they gaze at the scenery. They always seem to be just round a blind corner, forcing me to slam on the brakes so i don't go through them like a set of skittles. They're a danger to themselves and everyone else.

Tilt

spadoosh wrote: »

Exactly! Same answer! Motorists can be bell ends!

So can cyclists!

JQ.

Tilt wrote: »

So can cyclists!

But cyclists don't kill people on a very regular basis.

brat

NBLondon wrote: »

I guess it was when you said and and made me suspect you were the sort of cyclist who justifies breaking the law in their own mind. I'm prepared to take you at face value when you say you follow the rules.

And when I pointed out cases where this behaviour from some cyclists does inconvenience pedestrians and is dangerous...
you decide to not believe it because it doesn't fit your world view.

Not only do the !!!!!! cyclists on the road tar the image of the reasonable, considerate ones - the arrogant ones on t'internet do the same;)

There is a world of difference between arrogantly and dangerously breaking laws, and doing it either inadvertently or intentionally as part of a safe drive or ride.

I enforce laws. I don't break them. Speeding is one of those offences where, because you are encouraged to drive at or around the limit, you will inevitably at some point exceed the line in the sand, so you'll find that no traffic cop worth his salt enforces near the limits at places where speed will safely creep up.

You will exceed the limit on occasions, perhaps even intentionally, but definitely inadvertently. You can justify that to yourself and probably to me too by pointing out that you were doing nothing unsafe.
You might occasionally drive onto a pavement to park, if the road is narrow, and you might justify the obstruction of the pavement because it hardly gets used by pedestrians at night. You may even drive a little close to slower moving vehicles, safe in the knowledge that your observation, anticipation and ability to react and handle your car well will see you right should they need to brake suddenly.

Yet you deny cyclists the responsibility that you unilaterally adorn yourself with, the responsibility to see certain laws as guidance to the wise rather than requiring the strictest adherence.

Do you see the hypocrisy there?

You'll probably tell me you're the only UK resident who doesn't do any of the things I've mentioned. No matter. The hypocrisy abounds. There are many who openly admit it.

If cyclists were clattering into pedestrians killing them on a daily basis, or collapsing in mounds in the middle of red light junctions, or regularly being found lying in rural roads on bikes with no lights, I'd definitely share the concern of those who express it.
But you're not actually expressing genuine concern. It's thinly veiled anger which I can only assume is borne out of a jealousy that the cyclist seems to get away with some laws that the motorist doesn't.

As I said earlier, if we were all punished for every traffic offence we committed over the last year, there would only be cyclists left on the road. Perhaps you would like us to enforce with zero tolerance? Most of the cyclists I know would like that a lot.

Dave_C_2

Macca83 wrote: »

Cyclists that travel in a big pack, taking up the whole road as they gaze at the scenery. They always seem to be just round a blind corner, forcing me to slam on the brakes so i don't go through them like a set of skittles. They're a danger to themselves and everyone else.

It seems that you are a motorist. If so you are posting in the wrong board in the wrong thread. The place for irrational hatred of cyclists is on the motoring board in this thread.

Dave

Tilt

JQ. wrote: »

But cyclists don't kill people on a very regular basis.

Dosn't mean they are exempt from the law though as some think they are.