Any P.E. teachers about? I have a question.

pulliptears

DD has long term absence from PE due to various problems. The school has never insisted she stand outside and she uses the lesson to read quietly in the library or catch up on any work she'd missed through physio/hospital appointments.

Have to say I'd be bloody furious if they made he stand outside and watch.

balletshoes

SuzieSue wrote: »

That is unbelievable. I don't have any children so I don't have any experience of modern schools, but things must have changed a lot. I can't remember any unnecessary rules when I was at secondary school in the late 70s early 80s.

Have you spoken to the other parents about this and isn't there anything you can do via the PTA?

My daughter's secondary school also has the "no ties or blazers off in the classroom" rule. It started off as a blanket rule, however now it is more relaxed, in that their teacher usually tells them what the rule is in their own classroom (ie always on unless given permission to remove, or the kids can take off their blazer without needing permission etc). However, the children have to have their blazer and tie on when they leave the classroom and go into the corridors.

In a heatwave, the headmaster issues permission for the whole school to be able to remove their jackets/blazers and loosen their ties (even staff must follow this rule).

Its not an unusual policy at secondary schools now.

balletshoes

aliasojo wrote: »

I would hope that the teachers practised what they preached in this instance and the males wore ties and jackets and the females wore shirts fastened to the neck and jackets at all times in class?

If you are going to have a rule that negatively affects people and you enforce that rule strictly, then it should affect all, not just those you have power over.

in our school, yes, all the male teachers wear jackets and ties, and the females usually have jackets or cardigans over their other clothes. And yes, they have to receive permission from the head to be able to remove their jackets, loosen their ties, and roll up their shirt sleeves.

POPPYOSCAR

luxor4t wrote: »

That sounds like a 'corporate dress' rule - is the school an academy?
Only asking as none of the local schools wear blazers now, except the single private school, as we don't have academies in Wales.

No just the local comp.

They are very strict with the uniform.

Each child has a uniform card they get it marked if:

They have their sleeves rolled up, wrong type of trousers/skirt, shoes too high,skirt too short , no tie etc.

Three marks and they get detention.

I had to laugh once as one girl got a mark for having a skirt with a pleat in.

Her mother had bought the skirt at the school uniform evening!!

POPPYOSCAR

daisiegg wrote: »

This is crazy. The first thing I say in lessons (mainly with the little ones because as they get through the school they become more bold and don't need to be asked!) is 'please take your blazers off if you want to'. In the summer, the head will invited them to take blazers off at the start of assembly. You can't let the poor things boil!

Glad to hear that some schools have common sense!

POPPYOSCAR

scooby088 wrote: »

All I can say is that getting a doctors note to get off P.E. is a bit extreme and I am guessing any doctor would more than likely laugh at the suggestion. I know my 10 year when she doesn't do P.E. they are kept in class or asked to help the head teacher with something.

I guess it's to do with government policy that children even when not capable of doing p.e. are encouraged to be more active. Well at least today children aren't made to p.e. in their underwear if they forget their kit like I was when I was younger, now that was embarrassing when you were made to wear Y fronts.

Yes and also expensive.

Our doctor charges £25 even for children.

valk_scot

I remember my secondary school insisting on blazers in the classroom. Then we had a heatwave one summer and a couple of girls fainted, one hit her head on a desk and ended up in hospital with a suspected fractured skull. The blazer rule got dropped asap. Might be worth mentioning to the PTA as a Health & Safety thing?

GobbledyGook

Having the non-participating child out with the others is probably as much to do with supervision as anything else. The days of allowing a pupil to sit in the changing rooms by themselves reading or doing homework if they were ill/injured as my school used to do are long gone. The particular P.E. teacher has responsibility for that pupil for that period therefore can't just let them stay in or wander off to the library (our local high school's library isn't open all day anyway).

Schools insisting on shirt, tie and blazers for pupils in hot weather when staff are allowed no jackets and short sleeve tops really, really irks me. They may be children, but they deserve a bit of courtesy and respect and if you don't show them those qualities how on earth do we expect them to show them back.

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DKLS

When I was at school if you had a good excuse for not doing PE, you could go to the art room, or the bloody pufters room according to the cricket/football teacher.

I was often found in the art room, so much better being toasty warm, listening to the radio and being creative, rather than being barked at by the psycho that was the teacher and chasing after a pigs bladder in the freezing weather.

Fire_Fox

I'm shocked that ambient temperature dictates if children are permitted to remove their blazers in some schools - we are all different, overheat, get cold or sweat at different points, not everyone falls in the range of 'normal'. How can pupils and teachers be expected to concentrate if they are too hot or too cold?

I do think children should be encouraged to participate in PE as much as they can and I don't think it's that bad to make them wear PE kit, providing they are allowed to make reasonable modifications (sweater, coat, hat and gloves) to allow for temperature. Also be permitted to watch in a seated position if they are injured.

It's safe - even beneficial by boosting immune function - for an otherwise healthy person to exercise with a cold. In fitness the 'rule of thumb' with respiratory infections is basically if your symptoms are neck or above you can train but modify your intensity, if symptoms are below the neck you should not participate.