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Any P.E. teachers about? I have a question.

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  • *Louise*
    *Louise* Posts: 9,197 Forumite
    I would simply phone the school and ask the question - or raise it with the PE teacher at the next parents evening. I wouldn't be happy with it. (I would have no problem with him just being made to watch)

    Does the school have strict kit rules though? You could perhaps choose warmer PE kit. I know if my son is going to be outside for PE, he will take warm jogging bottoms instead of shorts and pack a tracksuit top/sweatshirt with his T-shirt.
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  • JC9297
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    scooby088 wrote: »
    All I can say is that getting a doctors note to get off P.E. is a bit extreme and I am guessing any doctor would more than likely laugh at the suggestion. I know my 10 year when she doesn't do P.E. they are kept in class or asked to help the head teacher with something.

    I guess it's to do with government policy that children even when not capable of doing p.e. are encouraged to be more active. Well at least today children aren't made to p.e. in their underwear if they forget their kit like I was when I was younger, now that was embarrassing when you were made to wear Y fronts.

    It's quite different in primary schools to secondary though. Most primary school kids don't try and get out of p.e and if anything are disappointed if they can't do it. Also the class teacher knows the child a lot better, so will know if they probably are feeling ill or if they are the sort of child who complains of tummy ache every time they don't want to do something.
  • SuzieSue
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    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »
    One of the rules that I could not understand and which really annoyed the pupils and me, is that in the summer they must wear their blazers and ties, even in the searing heat!!

    That is unbelievable. I don't have any children so I don't have any experience of modern schools, but things must have changed a lot. I can't remember any unnecessary rules when I was at secondary school in the late 70s early 80s.

    Have you spoken to the other parents about this and isn't there anything you can do via the PTA?
  • I think a lot of the time rules have to be strict and nigh-on petty because for every kids that's genuine there will be a dozen who will take the proverbial.

    Not saying I agree with it...but your have to set standards to the lowest denominator.

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  • WestonDave
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    Logically if you break your arm so you can't write, you still have to attend English, Maths etc so you can at least absorb whatever teaching goes on in that class, even though you might not actually be able to do the new equations or write something on the new topic. So in theory if during a PE lesson some form of teaching/coaching is happening as regards techniques etc then its not unreasonable to adopt a consistent approach that those not physically able to practice the new skills still get to take them in for future use.

    On that basis as a parent I wouldn't object to my kids being expected to attend the lesson (rather than doing something unrelated in the library for instance) - however I would start raising questions about duty of care etc if the dress they were required to wear or the fact that they were expected to stand on a sprained ankle etc for the lesson was inappropriate to the weather or their health condition.
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  • POPPYOSCAR
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    SuzieSue wrote: »
    That is unbelievable. I don't have any children so I don't have any experience of modern schools, but things must have changed a lot. I can't remember any unnecessary rules when I was at secondary school in the late 70s early 80s.

    Have you spoken to the other parents about this and isn't there anything you can do via the PTA?


    Both my children have left now but representations were made, their reasoning is that the children should look smart at all times.
    Now I am all for uniform but that is taking it too far. How can children be expected to work if they are uncomfortable.

    The odd teacher would let them take their blazer off, but not the ties, if the heat was off the scale, but it was a rare thing.
  • daisiegg
    daisiegg Posts: 5,395 Forumite
    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »
    Both my children have left now but representations were made, their reasoning is that the children should look smart at all times.
    Now I am all for uniform but that is taking it too far. How can children be expected to work if they are uncomfortable.

    The odd teacher would let them take their blazer off, but not the ties, if the heat was off the scale, but it was a rare thing.

    This is crazy. The first thing I say in lessons (mainly with the little ones because as they get through the school they become more bold and don't need to be asked!) is 'please take your blazers off if you want to'. In the summer, the head will invited them to take blazers off at the start of assembly. You can't let the poor things boil!
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    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

    The odd teacher would let them take their blazer off, but not the ties, if the heat was off the scale, but it was a rare thing.

    I would hope that the teachers practised what they preached in this instance and the males wore ties and jackets and the females wore shirts fastened to the neck and jackets at all times in class?

    If you are going to have a rule that negatively affects people and you enforce that rule strictly, then it should affect all, not just those you have power over.
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  • luxor4t
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    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »
    .....One of the rules that I could not understand and which really annoyed the pupils and me, is that in the summer they must wear their blazers and ties, even in the searing heat!!....


    That sounds like a 'corporate dress' rule - is the school an academy?
    Only asking as none of the local schools wear blazers now, except the single private school, as we don't have academies in Wales.
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  • peachyprice
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    luxor4t wrote: »
    That sounds like a 'corporate dress' rule - is the school an academy?
    Only asking as none of the local schools wear blazers now, except the single private school, as we don't have academies in Wales.

    I doubt it's anything to do with a school being an academy. All the schools here wear proper uniform with blazers and ties.

    The same rule applies at my DD's school, which applied when my son's were there, which applied when I was there. If it's hot you can't take your blazer off outside the classroom until the head gives permisssion because the weather has reached a certain temperature, same as tights for girls.
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