Cost of child-care makes working pointless for all but the most well paid mothers

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Generali wrote: »

I love posts like this because they remind me why I left the UK. It's a terrible country to raise kids because there are so many child haters there.

I don't hate children.

But I couldn't possibly eat a whole one.

Blue22

michaels wrote: »

may be it doesn't make sense economically for either you or the country to work. Sorry.

I'd agree that it doesn't make economic sense for the individual but the 'country' would look at it differently. The parents wage and the childcarers wage would be added to the country's GDP, supposedly making us all richer!

PasturesNew

PaulF81 wrote: »

perhaps we could get recently retired oaps a crb check and get them into free childcare?

I'd go out and get a criminal conviction just to avoid being awarded a CRB for that.

silvercar

I thought that child tax credits paid 70% of childcare costs for low earners.

PaulF81

No help if one of you is on a decent whack. No incentive for mum to go back. Perhaps why upper middle class families have more successful children perhaps?

moneyinmypocket

People who can't afford to have children should never have them. Those who can should keep them in check on the own grounds and not bother others who don't want too see or hear them

Generali

moneyinmypocket wrote: »

People who can't afford to have children should never have them. Those who can should keep them in check on the own grounds and not bother others who don't want too see or hear them

This one too. It's amazing how one country can have so many intolerant fools.

Hate away, I'm so glad I left.

ILW

I am a little suspicious of anyone who says they like children (except their own).

Tiglath

I have no problem with well-behaved children or even ones having an occasional meltdown (they all do that sometimes, and I'm sure I did too). It's the feral undisciplined ones in public I can't stand, running around restaurants unattended and stamping in shopping trolleys while screaming for sweets.

http://youtu.be/nojWJ6-XmeQ

vivatifosi

Generali wrote: »

This one too. It's amazing how one country can have so many intolerant fools.

Hate away, I'm so glad I left.

I don't have kids Gen, but am not anti-children. While I do think that there are some people out there who don't like them at least some of the blame also has to go on those parents who don't give their children the attention they deserve.

I'll give you an example. A young girl, aged about four, scoots really fast through a shopping precinct at speed. When I mention to her grandmother (who wasn't looking) that she nearly knocked an elderly man flying she just shrugged and said "oh she does that". Now that's not the child's fault, it's the guardian's. Children aren't inherently bad, but they do need to be told what the rules are, for their own safety as much as anything else. Yet you see this type of thing time after time after time.