should anyone who is on benefits that wins the lottery be forced to give 90% of

IveSeenTheLight

chewmylegoff wrote: »

the lottery isn't particularly expensive though, just £1 innit, so it's pretty difficult to reduce benefits to a level which would stop people spending money on the lottery. i reckon if i was on benefits and they were £1 a week, i would probably think that i might as well spend that quid on the lottery as it wasn't going to get me very far elsewhere.

Your right it's not much,why not give them another £1 and another etc.
It's only a quid innit.

Budgetting, you could probably buy a loaf of bread with that £1.
Stick it in the freezer to keep fresh.
Next week, buy some marg.
Then for your £1 a week, you can have a slice or two of toast each morning.

Far better use of the resources than gamboling on a 14 million to 1 shot.

Graham_Devon

Percy1983 wrote: »

You can control any situation if you prepare correctly.

Your mindset is a little more extreme than mine at an earlier point in life.

What changed, is I had kids. Your mindset will probably change too.

You can't control any situation with kids. It's simply impossible. Even without them, to say you can control any situation is a little naive. There are plenty of people who have worked all their lives, and at the age of 50ish are struck with illness...often bought on with their line of work. How do you control these situatons? You can't. And even planning for them with insurance doesn't always work, as insurance companies will do anything to get out of paying, to the loss of many individuals up and down the country.

!!!!!! happens as they say, and to pretend you can control stuff you're not even aware of is a little silly. All you can do is plan the best you can. That doesn't mean you are scot free, however.

Graham_Devon

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Then for your £1 a week, you can have a slice or two of toast each morning.

Woohoo! Lucky beggars.

So you've budgeted, your freezer is full (if you have one, that is, as you wouldn't be allowed money to replace it if it broke as no cash is allowed to be saved).

Would they be allowed to spend £1 on a lottery ticket if the freezer is full? Or should they stock up on a new lightbulb every fortnight?

grizzly1911

Percy1983 wrote: »

It would take death or a severe disability to knock me down.

You said it.

Accident, loss of sight.

Death, serious illness of a partner or children

Infidelity, divorce.

How long do you really think you would survive just on minimum wage with children. Perhaps alone you could shack up in a bedsit. Believe it or not general necessity prices rise faster than NNMW or benefits do.

Unexpected financial loss - Clerical Medical or similar for instance. I knew a successful barrister who was wiped out in old age because of it.

Graham_Devon

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Unexpected financial loss - Clerical Medical or similar for instance. I knew a successful barrister who was wiped out in old age because of it.

I know someone who merely tripped over on the pavement.

Due to the way they fell, but more importantly, what they fell on to, severing a tendon, they lost the ability to grip things. (there was a technical term).

May sound trivial. But when you realise that that means they can't write anymore (can't grip a pen), it makes even office tasks impossible, leading to loss of job.

One single trip on the pavement. One life changed forever.

Most get through life without problems like the above. But you can't pretend these normal people who have undergone life changing events in a split second don't exist, or that you are covered for every single outcome.

ILW

What has all that got to do with using benefits money for gambling?

iltisman

Life is a lottery.This should be explained to children as soon as they can comprehend.

The_White_Horse

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I know someone who merely tripped over on the pavement.

Due to the way they fell, but more importantly, what they fell on to, severing a tendon, they lost the ability to grip things. (there was a technical term).

May sound trivial. But when you realise that that means they can't write anymore (can't grip a pen), it makes even office tasks impossible, leading to loss of job.

One single trip on the pavement. One life changed forever.

Most get through life without problems like the above. But you can't pretend these normal people who have undergone life changing events in a split second don't exist, or that you are covered for every single outcome.

Garbage. Hawkings wrote a book and so did Jean-Dominique Bauby. not being able to grip doesn't stop them typing.

Graham_Devon

The_White_Horse wrote: »

Garbage. Hawkings wrote a book and so did Jean-Dominique Bauby. not being able to grip doesn't stop them typing.

Never said it did.

I said it makes it hard to hold a pen.

Other things too, like lifting a ream of paper, or removing a bundle of paper off the printer. Using a stapler. Hole punch. Kinda things you need in a desk job.

Typing was fine.

The_White_Horse

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

It is not charity.

Anyone who has worked and paid their dues is entitled

no one is ENTITLED to other peoples' salaries. the govt has created a law which entitles them to requisition some of your salary. they then hand it out to others. those others should feel lucky, not entitled.