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I've been sacked by nPower as a customer - should I be concerned?

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  • undaunted
    undaunted Posts: 1,870 Forumite
    edited 23 October 2012 at 11:36AM
    chanz4 wrote: »
    If you are refussed supply, they give you 28 days to swicth after this time if you have not they can withdraw the supply. Electricity act also does not state this, your refering to the SLC.

    Also if the supply goes shipperless they dont need a warrant, they would either disconnect on the overhead cable or dig up the main cable forcing you to pay for a new service.


    If you mean the Electricity Act does not refer to genuine dispute preventing disconnection I think you are mistaken. Schedule 6 F6(2) states so

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1989/29/schedule/6

    This is surely a third party dispute between a supplier & customer - nothing to do with the distribution network operator. Why would / should they therefore incur themesleves in such needless expense?

    Electricity Act states a distributor has a duty to connect
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1989/29/section/16

    Electricity act states that a distributor must give at least 7 days noticve if intending to disconnect

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1989/29/section/17

    What is the nature of this breach of contract / basis for warrants having been refused by the way rjsdavis?
  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    undaunted wrote: »
    If you mean the Electricity Act does not refer to genuine dispute preventing disconnection I think you are mistaken. Schedule 6 F6(2) states so

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1989/29/schedule/6

    This is surely a third party dispute between a supplier & customer - nothing to do with the distribution network operator. Why would / should they therefore incur themesleves in such needless expense?

    Electricity Act states a distributor has a duty to connect
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1989/29/section/16

    Electricity act states that a distributor must give at least 7 days noticve if intending to disconnect

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1989/29/section/17

    What is the nature of this breach of contract / basis for warrants having been refused by the way rjsdavis?


    that refers to debt disconnection, and not refusal to supply. A warrant is only required for access to private property, and not the highway
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    Hi rjsdavis,

    This sounds a bit strange and we've never come across this type of letter saying we would be closing your account.

    Please could you send me your details to [EMAIL="forumresponse@npower.com"]forumresponse@npower.com[/EMAIL] and I can find out what's happened here and get this sorted for you?

    Many thanks,

    Adam :)


    You should refer to your company solicitors, as this is likely who made the choice
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • Terrylw1
    Terrylw1 Posts: 7,038 Forumite
    Hi rjsdavis,

    This sounds a bit strange and we've never come across this type of letter saying we would be closing your account.

    Please could you send me your details to [EMAIL="forumresponse@npower.com"]forumresponse@npower.com[/EMAIL] and I can find out what's happened here and get this sorted for you?

    Many thanks,

    Adam
    :)

    I agree with Chanz.

    This has been a long running complaint which has reached a serious conclusion which breaches the suppliers responsibility under Deemed contracts not to mention the fact it can't even be achieved!

    I fail to see how a further referral into a complaints process is going to resolve this as its now become a case for legal representation.
    :rotfl: It's better to live 1 year as a tiger than a lifetime as a worm...but then, whoever heard of a wormskin rug!!!:rotfl:
  • Terrylw1
    Terrylw1 Posts: 7,038 Forumite
    Something else to consider is this from Schedule 6:



    F9

    Supplies of electricity illegally taken

    Sch. 6 substituted (20.12.2000 for specified purposes and otherwise 1.10.2001) by 2000 c. 27, s. 51(2), Sch. 4; S.I. 2000/3343, art. 2, Sch. (subject to transitional provisions in arts. 3-15) (as amended by S.I. 2001/1780, art. 2); S.I. 2001/3266, art. 2, Sch. (subject to transitional

    Where any person takes a supply of electricity which is in the course of being conveyed by an electricity distributor, the distributor shall be entitled to recover from that person the value of the electricity so taken.

    any person at premises at which a connection has been restored in contravention of paragraph 5(1) takes a supply of electricity which has been conveyed to those premises by an electricity distributor; and

    the supply is taken otherwise than in pursuance of a contract made with an authorised supplier, or of a contract deemed to have been made with an electricity supplier by virtue of paragraph 3 above or paragraph 23 (former tariff customers) of Schedule 7 to the Utilities Act 2000,



    Based on this, if the supplier terminated their contract with the customer and the Deemed contract didn't apply, they would knowingly place the customer in the same position as a theft case.

    I don't think a court would allow them to take that action thus allowing the distributor to express their rights under theft!
    :rotfl: It's better to live 1 year as a tiger than a lifetime as a worm...but then, whoever heard of a wormskin rug!!!:rotfl:
  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    The only thing that they could use though, it they have a right to refuse to supply. They would normaly issue a letter giving notice that the customer must change within a period or they would have no choice but to disconnect.
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • Terrylw1
    Terrylw1 Posts: 7,038 Forumite
    chanz4 wrote: »
    The only thing that they could use though, it they have a right to refuse to supply. They would normaly issue a letter giving notice that the customer must change within a period or they would have no choice but to disconnect.

    Is there something which backs it up in legislation though?

    The problem here is that I can't see a supplier can breach a Deemed contract and the distributor just sees the supplier still registered so has no issue and continues to charge them for the energy.
    :rotfl: It's better to live 1 year as a tiger than a lifetime as a worm...but then, whoever heard of a wormskin rug!!!:rotfl:
  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    What the supplier could do is withdraw from the mpan, although not ideal as it would make it shipperless but is possible.

    I will look it up,not sure of the section off hand. Although they may not even be on deemed if they have been on a fixed tariff etc
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • tichtich
    tichtich Posts: 165 Forumite
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    Very interesting thread. Thanks for all the info. Some of it is relevant to me, since I have an unregistered electricity meter. Previous tenant didn't notice he was paying for gas only! I was tempted to keep shtum about it, and hope that no one would notice until I too was gone from this flat. But I decided to do the right thing, get myself a supplier and ask them to register the meter.
  • A supplier can notify both national grid for gas & the local distributor for ele to inform them of a supplier less property. They can then come & disconnect your home if you don't take on a supplier.

    So you may be b.est contacting mpas & nat grid to see if you still have a supplier.
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