MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

Morlock

Dunroamin wrote: »

We were living on the IOW when the situation arose for us (about 10 years ago) and the information booklet was very misleading even for people like us who are highly educated and literate.

What do you consider to be 'highly educated'? You claim to be highly educated but are writing in first person plural without any reference to who 'us' is.

This person implies that she has a degree, but has trouble forming a coherent sentence:

FBaby wrote: »

You'd hoped you would need to go, now you do and you are making it you think you shouldn't (or even anyone at all).

Education does not equate to intelligence.

Morlock

Mara69 wrote: »

The point I was making is that politicians generally have a much, much better education than the average joe. That makes them far better placed to do the job of running the county.

Politicians also tend to come from very well off families, making studying a much easier process. Not having to worry about paying rent, buying food and paying bills etc. obviously enables a student to focus more on studying. It does not automatically mean they are more able or intelligent than somebody else who has struggled financially whilst trying to study at the same time.

krisskross

Morlock wrote: »

Politicians also tend to come from very well off families, making studying a much easier process. Not having to worry about paying rent, buying food and paying bills etc. obviously enables a student to focus more on studying. It does not automatically mean they are more able or intelligent than somebody else who has struggled financially whilst trying to study at the same time.

Ed and David Milliband do not have particularly well off parents.

Dunroamin

Morlock wrote: »

What do you consider to be 'highly educated'? You claim to be highly educated but are writing in first person plural without any reference to who 'us' is.
.

Considering I'd been talking about my husband's eligibility to claim, I really didn't think it necessary to make "my husband and I" the subject of every sentence as if I were auditioning to be HRH's understudy.:D

FBaby

Morlock wrote: »

This person implies that she has a degree, but has trouble forming a coherent sentence:
Education does not equate to intelligence.

Excellent. Sorry my ability to type from a phone is lacking in skill. That comes from having acquired one only a few months ago rather than deciding that I should get one the minute the technology was available, whether I could afford it or not.

Oh, and maybe I should add that English in not my first language. Happy to have the same discussion in my mother's tongue, we'll see how we get on and who's most intelligent at the end of it

krisskross

FBaby wrote: »

Oh, and maybe I should add that English in not my first language. Happy to have the same discussion in my mother's tongue, we'll see how we get on and who's most intelligent at the end of it

Game, set and match to FBaby I think.

clemmatis

Mara69 wrote: »

What on earth do you mean? For the purposes of clarification, I mean I attended college for two years and achieved two qualifications.

Actually I feel rather bad about asking now. I wouldn't normally. But your comments about MUMZ2BEE's educational level annoyed me.

The point I was making is that politicians generally have a much, much better education than the average joe.

That isn't what you said, though. You said

Oh and the reason most politicians have a better standard of life is because they worked hard at school, studied at University and gained excellent degrees

and you said it response to MUMZ2BEE's

David Cameron doesnt know what real day every life is all about; he needs to try and live on benefits for a week and see hope he copes!!

You say

That makes them far better placed to do the job of running the county.

(That) being a better than average standard of education, I assume. That isn't quite what you said. Not that I'd agree, entirely. Or rather, I'm concerned by your citing of David Cameron's First in PPE as a qualification for running the country, and the implicit assumption that he'd be better at it than someone with, oh I don't know, say a 2.2 from Hull, or whatever.

The post written by Mumz was ignorant rhetoric, often spouted by people of lower education and intelligence - yet, somehow they think they know better than the highly educated and intelligent people actually running the country.

I'll roll my eyes silently this time... So, we should put up with the ignorant rhetoric spouted by people of "higher education and intelligence"? (I won't comment on the people "actually running the country").

I agree with your comments about MUMZ2BEE's apparent racism and xenophobia. But it's very far from being the province of the relatively uneducated alone.

I wouldn't presume, though, to tell someone like David Cameron how to run the country

Why "someone like David Cameron" rather than "a prime minister"? And how far would you take this? Don't you think we have a right to say "the prime minister/the government should/should not have done x" even though we lack access to all the papers etc. he/they see?

Morlock

Dunroamin wrote: »

Considering I'd been talking about my husband's eligibility to claim, I really didn't think it necessary to make "my husband and I" the subject of every sentence as if I were auditioning to be HRH's understudy.:D

That doesn't answer the question of why you consider 'us' to be highly educated. Do you consider a BA/BSc to be highly educated, a Masters, a PhD? What qualifications do you have?

Morlock

krisskross wrote: »

Ed and David Milliband do not have particularly well off parents.

And for that reason I consider them to be more successful than the majority of the current government whose student lifestyles were funded by multi-millionaire parents.

Morlock

FBaby wrote: »

Oh, and maybe I should add that English in not my first language. Happy to have the same discussion in my mother's tongue, we'll see how we get on and who's most intelligent at the end of it

Okay, that explains your semi-literacy, I am multilingual so perhaps we could converse in your mother tongue. What is your first language?