MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

exarmydreamer

Cerisa wrote: »

"Why is all that so important?"

Topazimam -Because:

a) We can afford to pay them - benefit claimants are being used as a scapegoat - particularly disabled claimants who have experienced a 300% rise in hate crimes since this government came into power.

b) Several people mentioned anecdotal evidence of benefit fraudsters.

There are actually very few benefit fraudsters - the DWP say 0.7%, and if anything, they'd seek to maximise rather than minimise that figure, because the far greater figure illustrates their mistakes.

On top of that these savings are false economies - cutting NHS cleaners has meant an increase in healthcare acquired infections, costing the NHS £1 billion.

Crime has gone up since the police force was cut.

If you chuck people off benefits permanently for committing fraud, how are they supposed to feed themselves unless they turn to crime?

Couldn't agree more, I've had two attacks from people who pass me in the street because I work with a rollator. I've even taken to wearing my veterans bedge because I feel scared outside my door. 'How dare, I be disabled', well it was for actually fighting in the army!!!.

Eellogofusciouhipoppokunu

exarmydreamer wrote: »

By the way, I would not show my face if I claimed and had millions, its just not BRITISH. I too, hate benefit cheats and people who can't be bothered with their lives but I also hate people, who claim KNOWING they do not need it to support a child, bit like higher rate tax payers claiming Child benefit - same thing.

You're probably one of those people who pillory rich people who use private health for not caring about the NHS 'because they're too good to use it' and pillory rich people who use the NHS because 'they should go private and save NHS resources'.

exarmydreamer

Eellogofusciouhipoppokunu wrote: »

You're probably one of those people who pillory rich people who use private health for not caring about the NHS 'because they're too good to use it' and pillory rich people who use the NHS because 'they should go private and save NHS resources'.

No not at all. If you paid in you should have the right to use the facility. After all, it's a National Health Service. Not a benefit claimed by a millionaire, who by the way got his inheritence from a tax evader as well. Like i've said before, no love for any party, I remeber when Thatcher stole my milk at school, I remember the cold winter of discontent caused by the conservatives, I remember being sent to Iraq for no reason by Labour. I can't at the moment think of anything to blame the Liberals for - Oh yes, forming a coalition government.

PaulF81

exarmydreamer wrote: »

No not at all. If you paid in you should have the right to use the facility. After all, it's a National Health Service. Not a benefit claimed by a millionaire, who by the way got his inheritence from a tax evader as well. Like i've said before, no love for any party, I remeber when Thatcher stole my milk at school, I remember the cold winter of discontent caused by the conservatives, I remember being sent to Iraq for no reason by Labour. I can't at the moment think of anything to blame the Liberals for - Oh yes, forming a coalition government.

It's a shame the level of treatment doesn't reflect what an individual has paid in.

Dunroamin

Cerisa wrote: »

I find this much more morally reprehensible than someone who gets made redundant, who claims £200 HB, £100 CTB and £180 JSA a month - from the money they've already paid into the system.

There are precious few people who pay rent as low as £200 pcm, even under 25s get £242 JSA and over 25s get more than £300.

Even so, I doubt that anyone here would suggest that it "morally reprehensible|" to claim benefits in these circumstances.

MissMoneypenny

clemmatis wrote: »

You think I'm the only hard worker etc, who believes in welfare? Think again.

Here is one of many

Clement Richard Attlee, 1st Earl Attlee, KG, OM, CH, PC, FRS; Haileybury College, Oxford.

British welfare was invented as a safety net and that is all it should ever be. Now the lazy and over breeders are using the welfare system as a hammock, to lounge on.

The quicker welfare gets backs to that safety net and the ropes on that hammock are cut, the better for Britain.

exarmydreamer

Should we all get together for a country supper, followed by a ride out on the loaned police horses. Wouldn't it be great, we could borrow a couple of bottles from the cellars at the commons.

We could then send the left overs to the food bank, then set the dogs on them.

Picture this scene:

Butler: My lady, the poor are starving in the hedgerows, they have no bread.

Lady: Let them eat cake.

The french revolution, the rest is history.:rotfl:

Cerisa

Where I live, you get £208 (gone up since I claimed!) a month if you are a single person.

clemmatis

Dunroamin wrote: »

Well, they could of course get a job.

now what were the unemployment figures again?!

Dunroamin

Cerisa wrote: »

Where I live, you get £208 (gone up since I claimed!) a month if you are a single person.

Rates are the same throughout the UK; I used the official figures. (You're using figures for 4 weeks, not for a month.)