MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

paddedjohn

princessdon wrote: »

Other than in my work life I have never met any under 25 who claimed HB. Not once, I have a large family, my hubby has a large family, we have many neices and nephews of that age with friends and I know no - one.

In work life - I know that most of the parents with multiple kids by different fathers or fathers unknown (for benefit reasons) somehow seem to produce children that need housing.

So either I live in a bubble that no one else does or it will only affect a small few.

Remember the wording is "not put into the system" - so those that worked for 3 years *should not* be affected, we are talking about those that simply move out (no means to support themselves) because they simply can.

380,000 claimants under 25 is hardly a small few, the cost per week in housing benefit alone is over £34 million.

Borage

robpw2 wrote: »

no one is expecting under 25s to live with thier parents , they could go out and get jobs and fund their own places , like the rest of us have too.
it wil be only those who don't want to work who will have to live with their parents till they are 25

There are no jobs out there

paddedjohn

Not a lot of cash left in the pot either

mac300579

allule wrote: »

The government is being very successful in redirecting public anger from overpaid bankers and large-scale tax avoiders to the far smaller numbers of benefit fraudsters, and genuine claimants.

I have overheard several conversations where people are now complaining about their neighbours rather than the real crooks.

Divide and rule!

Well done, George.

And also very good at trying to make out that all benefits are claimed by the non-working. Not true in the case of Housing or Council Tax Benefit.

Most council tax benefit is already about to be cut across the board I think it will depend on your local council but my area is 30%. Pensioners are protected (although it is already means tested so shouldn't be going to the
millionaires!).

I_luv_cats

On You & Yours the figure of £95 bn was quoted for all working age benefits (those in or out of work) and a £ 10 bn cut is a big ask.

Rushing into cutting £10 bn could end up costing more with the social impact/fallout (crime, hospitals, care, less employability, more riots etc.)

In the supposedly Boom times there were 4m unemployed so where there is some scope to address some underlying problems they are not really picking a fine time to do it.

A lot of the whipped up newspaper headlines are misleading and are brainwashing many people. Some were ordered to make corrections yet the headlines surface again.

There are not enough of the simple low skilled jobs to accommodate many people that have been left behind. Why haven't we been up-skilling people via schools/colleges/apprenticeships etc. for the jobs that need doing. (We will be shipping people in to do the semi-skilled / skilled jobs leaving many of the UK u/e population to rot) We have also allowed a considerable amount of cheap labour from the European accession countries whilst paying people not to work.

Morglin

These 'promised cuts' aren't coming in before the next election, so really, as no one knows who will be in power then, they are said by Osborne/IDS generally to just appease the Tory right.

Clegg has also said that the LD's will not agree to it, in it's current plan, as they insist on 'the rich' being hammered first.

We shall see.

Lin

Zziggi

paddedjohn wrote: »

Do you have a link to this? afaik the disabled and the elderly are to be protected.

It depends on your Local Authority/Council. My Council, for example, has stated pensioners, those with a child under 5 and the disabled will be protected. The neighbouring council has stated they will only protect pensioners. I know a couple of disabled people in the neighbouring council area who WILL have to pay from April 2013. However just over the border in my council, I am exempt.

Personally I think it stinks!

Cerisa

Lol. One of the big problems with textile / farm / care home workers etc is that people from other countries are trafficked into the UK to do those jobs.

We're talking free / cheap slaves as compared to paid and taxed workers.

That isn't a problem with the British work ethic.

(Source: SOCA: Threats/HumanTrafficking)

Cerisa

Also, love the word entitled.

If I lost my job tomorrow, damn straight I would feel entitled to benefits until I got another job.

Because I pay National Insurance, which entitles me to state benefits.

Cerisa

Just to put some of this in perspective as well:

• Only 0.5% of disability claims are found to be fraud.
  
• Total spend for 2011-2012 was £167.0 billion on benefits, employment programmes and their related administration costs in 2011-12.
  
• The DWP hae underpaid benefits to the tune of £1.3 billion
  
• The DWP conflate Fraud and Error in the same report.
  
• Overpayments account for just 2% of the total benefits bill.
  
• Fraud constitutes just 0.7% of overpayments

(sources: Department for Work and Pensions: 2011-12 Accounts
Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General,