Is this Discrimination?

skibadee

zzzLazyDaisy......what do you think?

Loanranger

I think you have got the job subject to the Occ Health Unit saying OK.

skibadee

Thank you Loanranger.

Takeaway_Addict

it looks to me that things have landed right and to be fair I would be surprised now if there would be any repercussions down the line especially as the idiot manager has left now

iSaving

I have just read through this post from the beginning and am sorry to hear the inconvenience you have suffered.

What is your gut feeling telling you now? Do you still want to walk away, or now that the main cause of your concern is no longer a factor, are you tempted to pursue this?

By all accounts of correspondence recently received, it seems the company are very keen to go through all the correct channels. I'd not see this as them checking your suitability for the job, but actually covering themselves from any legal action based on their former manager's discriminatory actions towards your employment.

You have nothing to worry about with the OH referral, and you know yourself you're fit and able to carry out the responsibilities of the job. So the only question now is whether you actually still want it?

Good luck with your decision making

Sambucus_Nigra

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

it looks to me that things have landed right and to be fair I would be surprised now if there would be any repercussions down the line especially as the idiot manager has left now

Do you really think that?

The Area Operations Manager thinks Breast Cancer = Chest problems.

I can see frantic box ticking going on here to try and absolve them of any discrimination claim. I cannot see things landing right!

And once the OP gives up their current role, I suspect a fight to the bitter end as their card is already marked.

iSaving

With the greatest respect intended Sambucus, just because someone refers to breast cancer as chest problems, doesn't mean the employment is going to be a constant struggle.

There could be many reasons for this, one of which being that many people are afraid to use the C word, especially towards a patient in remission. There is of course ignorance too, but that's no reason to reject what could be OP's ideal job.

Personally (and I'm not trying to offer advice), I would see no problem in going along to the induction and seeing how I felt about the job, staff and the home in person. It's much easier to form a judgement face-to-face, rather than by phone or email.

Takeaway_Addict

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Do you really think that?

The Area Operations Manager thinks Breast Cancer = Chest problems.

I can see frantic box ticking going on here to try and absolve them of any discrimination claim. I cannot see things landing right!

And once the OP gives up their current role, I suspect a fight to the bitter end as their card is already marked.

Its a fair point regarding chest problems (maybe they were being delicate over the phrasing?)

At the end of the day it is down to gut feelings, me personally I would give the job ago but then my circumstance will be different to the OP's and the risk may be to great.

Sambucus_Nigra

iSaving wrote: »

With the greatest respect intended Sambucus, just because someone refers to breast cancer as chest problems, doesn't mean the employment is going to be a constant struggle.

There could be many reasons for this, one of which being that many people are afraid to use the C word, especially towards a patient in remission. There is of course ignorance too, but that's no reason to reject what could be OP's ideal job.

Personally (and I'm not trying to offer advice), I would see no problem in going along to the induction and seeing how I felt about the job, staff and the home in person. It's much easier to form a judgement face-to-face, rather than by phone or email.

With the greatest respect back - they already know that the OP is on to them for a potential discrimination claim. So at this juncture, they need to be 100% watertight on what they and their managers are saying to avoid getting themselves in deeper water. And they aren't - they are letting inappropriate comments slip through the net at the first opportunity.

Once the OP is in the role, I suspect that all the shiny Occ Health stuff will fall apart and the reality will be that the managers managing the OP - who seem to have no knowledge of discrimination law remember - will just carry on regardless.

Read between the lines.

I would not recommend leaving a job to move to this company. If the OP wasn't in a job already I'd perhaps say chance it. But leaving a job where they know the deal to a job where they obviously don't have a clue is a huge risk.

I just can't rest easy letting the OP think that this approach might have resolved the issue. They know it hasn't.

KiKi

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

The Area Operations Manager thinks Breast Cancer = Chest problems.

I don't disagree with what you're saying in your post overall, but wanted to make a point that 'chest problems' may have been the manager's unhelpful way of saying 'breast cancer', rather than assuming breathing problems (which is what 'chest' problems would usually refer to). Ie, the manager may have felt they couldn't say 'breast cancer' as the OP appears to have had the all clear (apologies, haven't re-read the OP).

Saying 'given your breast problems' or 'given your previous breast cancer' may sound odd or as if the manager was trying to bring the past up. I think it's probably just a clumsy phrasing by the manager who didn't know how to say it!