Parking Charge Notice at John Lennon Airport

Coupon-mad

Search this parking sub-forum for the keywords 'Roxburghe phone calls' and you will find lots of other people who have had this phone call hassle and knocked it on the head easily.

It's just a matter of responding with the right reply, see the other threads as you'll feel better when you read about other people doing this first. Just DO NOT BOTHER to look at the youtube result as the guy did not follow the right 'script' and it's stupid.

The DVLA do not give out phone numbers but obviously yours comes up with a basic Google or a limited credit search maybe - sometimes your bank puts your phone number on the record of any loans. And Roxburghe (aka Graham White which is just a trading name; just different letter-heading from the same Call Centre) can look at some basic stuff, that's how they get the numbers of some people.

So knock it on the head with a stock reply as you'll find when you search.

TimBisley

You go away for 5 minutes......!

Since posting this thread, I haven't had anything else through until this week. It is from Roxburghe Debt Collectors with the usual spiel. Having looked through other threads here it looks pretty standard i.e. Pay £160 in 14 days otherwise you will hear from Graham White etc.

Shall just carry on ignoring. I can't wait for the phone calls, I love hanging up on annoying people!

horne65

Hi all, I do not want to give too much away which will become apparent later.

I have a “friend” who dropped off his son and his friends at John Lennon airport back in the summer. To avoid the unscrupulous parking charge just to drop people off he dropped them at the end of Speke Hall Avenue. I gather there were no wardens around as nothing was ever heard. After picking the lads up, a little further along Speke Hall Avenue, near to the junction with Dunlop Road he received a lovely full colour letter, (or did he) with pictures. In the picture it clearly shows that there was no traffic at all on the dual carriageway so he was not causing any obstruct and was too far away from the airport to be classed as a security threat. What the picture does not show is that he was stopped for no more than five seconds whilst his passengers entered the vehicle. My friend had worked for several years at the airport and did not know of these so called parking restrictions nor did he at any time anywhere along these roads spot any signage to back this up.

Anyway to cut a long and boring story short my friend ignored this letter after reading comments like these on the interweb, as I call it. The letter was sent using the normal very unreliable royal mail, not sure if he ever received any such letter if you know what I mean?

A couple of months later a second letter arrived, or didit? This might have been a cheaper black and white letter with no pictures, very boring, which was again ignored, if it was received.

Today a third such official letter might have arrived from a firm calling its self Roxburghe, again there is no proof that any such letter was received. The parking charges have sky rocketed to £160, again due within fourteen days.

What my “friend” would like to know, if there are any legal eagles out there, These charges are clearly not legal or enforceable due to the lack of and very poor signage at the time. Can these companies not be taken to court for harassment or at the very least reported to trading standards?

My friend is disabled and held a valid Blue badge which makes it legal and above board for him to stop on double yellow lines, he is also adamant that he will not pay this charge and is willing to go to jail for it as there is no way on earth he can afford or is willing to pay.



Regards



A friend of a friend who may or may not have received anysuch correspondence.

Umkomaas

Please start a new thread and you'll get advice on it relative to your (and your 'friend's') circumstances.

And please turn off the blue font colour - it makes your post very difficult to read.

horne65

Umkomaas wrote: »

Please start a new thread and you'll get advice on it relative to your (and your 'friend's') circumstances.

And please turn off the blue font colour - it makes your post very difficult to read.

Not sure how, don't use these sites much?

bod1467

Button exists at the top-left of the forum thread list.

TimBisley

Hello again,

I didn't know whether to bump this thread or start a new one. Since my last post, I have received a 'Notice of Appointment as Debt Collectors' letter from Newlyn Debt Collectors. They are asking for £166 blah blah blah.

Up until now I have ignored everything (original PCN, 3 other debt collector's letters) and I was just going to ignore this until I looked on this forum again and the advice seems to have changed to 'Appeal' rather than 'Ignore'.

I have tried to find a similar case to mine on the forum but I can't see anything similar. The problem I think I have is that the "Offence" occurred on 22nd September 2012 and according to the POPLA website, they can only consider appeals against PCNs issued on or after 1st October 2012. So, my question is, what do I do? Is it worth still denying/rejecting the claim from debt collectors? Should I appeal to POPLA anyway?
Thanks.

Coupon-mad

You are too late for POPLA but they could have considered a pre-Oct 2012 case at the time of the PCN letter. Too late for that now so carry on ignoring in the sure knowledge that as registered keeper there is no case against you as this was pre-POFA.

If you ever got actual court papers come back but Newlyn letters suggesting court are not worthy of a response - unless you want to write one letter denying liability and reminding them that the case was before POFA 2012 and far too long ago for a registered keeper to be expected to know who was driving that day. Not that you have to divulge who was driving so tell them not to bother to reply with a template lie about that, pretending they are going to pay for a Norwich Pharmacal Order as that's well-known PPC bluster and just hot air! And they may as well return the file to the originator as you won't be paying and know about the usual dispute arguments such as that the charge wasn't a genuine pre-estimate of loss. Tell them to stop writing/phoning because any further letters/calls will be considered harassment. Send a copy to the PPC and Newlyn, both at once. It won't stop the letters straight away but it states your case and marks you out as a non-victim!

You did the right thing to bump this thread as we can see all the details, makes it easier. Keep ALL your letters for years just in case a PPC ever tries a small claim over an Airport case. You'd win with a decent defence and it is most unlikely anyway, but you need a file showing the letters and your response to show they knew that you are not liable.

Stroma

I would scan all your documents that you have for this and keep copies of it in several places like your computer and flash drive, plus on something like Dropbox. Then just forget about this scam unless you get a letter before claim.

The_Deep

Hang on, you are all taking this far too seriously, just send them a FOAD letter, they work for me.