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Parking Charge Notice at John Lennon Airport

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Hi Guys,

I'm just after some advice regarding a 'Parking Charge Notice' that I received this week. I have looked around the forum and the general consensus seems to be ignore the PCN and it will get dropped. BUT I can't seem to find a case similar to mine as I didn't actually go into any car park.
The PCN is dated 1st October 2012 but the alleged 'incident' occurred on 22nd September. (See below pictures)

i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/andyl29/PCN1.jpg
i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/andyl29/PCN2.jpg

I was picking my parents up at John Lennon Airport after a delayed flight. As I was approaching the airport, my phone began to ring, so - assuming it was my parents saying they had landed - I looked for somewhere to stop to take the call. I did not enter the "main" car park (or any other). Instead I went around a roundabout and stopped on the entrance to another car park. (see below link for the location)
goo.gl/maps/nmd8t

I pulled over (admittedly on yellow lines) to take the call. I did not leave my vehicle in any way for any length of time. I was not obstructing any paths or stopping any car getting past me.

SO, my question is: Because it wasn't in the car park, is this still just classed as private land so falls into the same category as if it was in a car park?
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  • AlexisV
    AlexisV Posts: 1,890 Forumite
    Ignore.

    Use of the 'no stopping' public highway sign is pushing it IMO.
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    Just ignore them, they have no right to issue penalties or fines which this is
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • Thanks for the replies.
    So what can I expect if I ignore it? How many letters sent to me and for how long?
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    circa 4-6 letters spread out over 9-12 months, you just file them away and they will not bother you again. They are very easy to ignore and they don't have a leg to stand on basically.
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • RENEGADE_2
    RENEGADE_2 Posts: 948 Forumite
    They can't touch you, their losses are zero and this route they are taking is a certified scam contrived to line their pockets, overlooked by the government for the fact that a legally registered company pays its contributions.

    It doesn't mean however that everything it seeks is payable, and this certainly isn't. Since the alleged incident took place before 1st october, you have no obligation to communicate with anyone nor nominate the driver regardless of whether it were you.

    Ignore everything, the law is on your side, not your antagonist's.
  • RENEGADE wrote: »
    It doesn't mean however that everything it seeks is payable, and this certainly isn't. Since the alleged incident took place before 1st october, you have no obligation to communicate with anyone nor nominate the driver regardless of whether it were you.
    Even post 1st October, I would contend that these airport notices are NOT parking charge notices (despite what's written on the bit of paper), as they don't relate to parking, particularly when dropping off/picking up, and therefore fall outside the scope of the POFA.
  • ManxRed
    ManxRed Posts: 3,530 Forumite
    But please please do let us know if they subsequently mention in any of their letters, the Protection Of Freedoms Act, or imply in any way that the Registered Keeper is liable or can be pursued for this.
    Je Suis Cecil.
  • Thanks again. I will update you if a new letter comes through and it mentions the Protection Of Freedoms Act.
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    Even post 1st October, I would contend that these airport notices are NOT parking charge notices (despite what's written on the bit of paper), as they don't relate to parking, particularly when dropping off/picking up, and therefore fall outside the scope of the POFA.

    There is that, you are in Luton airport for example , somebody jumps out of your passenger door in a traffic jam. 7 days later you get a parking charge notice. The defence would include that I was not parked so therefore the invoice is invalid as I didn't do what it says.
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • kritou
    kritou Posts: 5 Forumite
    I am in the identical situation as the OP. See http ://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=73217

    If they would like to contact me by private message please feel free to do so

    Apologies for the format of the link
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