Nice people thread part 7 - a thread in its prime

lostinrates

We just went for a short walk ( just walked the edges of the fields here, not far) ......it's a beautiful night, and the rain is coming back soon so wanted to make the most of it. I love night time walks. The other joy is the house feels warmer when you come back in. .

PasturesNew

Just scoffed three brioche and jam
Nuked. mmmm.

Anyway - Caue - it's a surname. Seems to have been a lot of them around in that area/on that document.

vivatifosi

Not sure if it is a surname Pastures as it doesn't fit with the rest, however I may adopt it as my internet surname. If ever I get PPR'd I'll come back as vivacaue. It seems strangely appropriate.

ETA: bunked off with her lover would fit absolutely perfectly if true...

vivatifosi

zagubov wrote: »

Has it anything to do with a caveat on the will, to do with multiple claims of inheritance or something?

I'm trying to help an American friend trace their family in the UK. They went to America on one of the very first ships after the Mayflower, and were a very influential family there. So we're now trying to find their ancestry here. I said I'd help as for non-internet stuff I'm better placed than they are: I have a readers card for the British Library so I can just pop in. Not so easy if you live in rural Indiana!

There are some areas of the chart which border on internet legend. Tracing families back to the Kings and Queens of England. All of the links go back to the same books, published by people I'm convinced were the American version of Victorian social climbers... I'm also convinced that 95% of it is made up. However because of that the wrong info is totally ubiquitous. Getting behind that is near impossible. It definitely borders on fantasy at times. All jolly good fun. It's a bit like the film National Treasure, only without the need to steal the Declaration of Independence.

zagubov

vivatifosi wrote: »

There are some areas of the chart which border on internet legend. Tracing families back to the Kings and Queens of England. All of the links go back to the same books, published by people I'm convinced were the American version of Victorian social climbers... I'm also convinced that 95% of it is made up. However because of that the wrong info is totally ubiquitous. Getting behind that is near impossible. It definitely borders on fantasy at times. All jolly good fun. It's a bit like the film National Treasure, only without the need to steal the Declaration of Independence.

You could do worse than spend a few minutes listening to this, viva. It shows the baffling backgroud some families can have. Just click on the Listen button if you have a spare minute (it's not very long).

PasturesNew

I am guessing you're reading a digitised version .... another one spells it differently:

Barbara uxor Edw. Hastinges mil. relicta Cane.

I can delete if that's appropriate.

Generali

Spirit wrote: »

We need details.:)

Why a fine, why a trailer and why reregistering? How much is that in real money?

The fine is for only partly registering the car and for driving without insurance as the insurance is automatically invalidated because the registration isn't valid!

The police took the number plates so the trailer was to get the car home!

It's £2,000 or thereabouts.

Generali

PasturesNew wrote: »

Re aunt, I would say that even though a fastidously, hard-working, dedicated, genealogist... it was my 10 idle minutes online that yielded where her parents had married, the year - and the biggie: her older sister was born in wedlock.

People search differently. Maybe she'd stopped actually looking 10 years ago, expecting to not get to the bottom of it ... and I got lucky. All her research is done properly in record offices .... I just type stuff into search engines

I also just discovered ... and informed... a sibling that they are a b4st4rd... never knew that! Nor did they!

A wonderful girl I used to know discovered much the same thing when her very uptight parents celebrated their 20th wedding anniversary shortly after her 21st birthday. When she questioned it, the response was, "I wondered when you'd work it out. You really are quite thick sometimes!"

She died a few months later of a brain hemmorage(sp?). I still miss her more than 20 years on.

vivatifosi

PasturesNew wrote: »

I am guessing you're reading a digitised version .... another one spells it differently:

Barbara uxor Edw. Hastinges mil. relicta Cane.

I can delete if that's appropriate.

Morning Pastures, I now think you are right, having said that I didn't think you were yesterday, though the initial surname isn't spelt Cane, Caue or Cave:o. I've come to the conclusion many times over that the Elizabethans and Stuarts were really cr&p spellers.

PasturesNew wrote: »

Re aunt, I would say that even though a fastidously, hard-working, dedicated, genealogist... it was my 10 idle minutes online that yielded where her parents had married, the year - and the biggie: her older sister was born in wedlock.

People search differently. Maybe she'd stopped actually looking 10 years ago, expecting to not get to the bottom of it ... and I got lucky. All her research is done properly in record offices .... I just type stuff into search engines

I think that the stuff you can get online has changed dramatically even over the past couple of years. I think about what's happening where I work with projects to digitise old documents. This is happening all over the country, all over the world in fact. Take for example the ancient records in Timbuktu that were destroyed by the terrorists. Many of them had been digitised so at least the contents have been preserved if not the form.

I'm pretty sure that this is an answerable question, (the issue above was a five minute side bar not the main problem), but that the answers won't be found in the normal places, rather they will be found in places nobody has looked yet. It could also be the case that what I want to look at hasn't been digitised yet.

I'm happy to go read the paper archives - I know what these are like for my own county and they are extensive - but to do that you've got to go to the right county to start with. I started out looking in the North West and the Midlands but have ended up looking in the North East too, which isn't even supposed to be part of it.

I'm off to listen to Zag's recording now.

vivatifosi

zagubov wrote: »

You could do worse than spend a few minutes listening to this, viva. It shows the baffling backgroud some families can have. Just click on the Listen button if you have a spare minute (it's not very long).

Zag that's brilliant. It's erudite, interesting and touchingly funny. My own mum didn't discover that she had another two sisters and a brother until she was 70, so I can well believe these things happen.