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Question about dna tests and Csa, ( x partner problem)

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  • I'm glad I had a look around before I posted a question, I have just spoken to the CSA because my ex husband has denied being our child's father.
    I was told that he would be paying the costs for the DNA and that is £180 and he has until the fourth of next month before they are free to assume he is the father and start looking into his accounts.

    This man is very manipulating also he is self employed so I don't expect to get a lot of support from him (What with the money he doesn't put in the books), I'm just wondering if he has given me and my girl a get out of jail free card, If I was to say I didn't want the test surly I would be able to move on with my life and out of the area without him being able to oppose it... (I know I wouldn't get the money but some things are worth more)
  • DUTR
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    For those of you that get confused by the terms ASSUMED paternity , remember if the father is not named on the BC and you were not or intended to marry within 300 days of the birth, then there is no assumed paternity, it is not a case of anybody denying paternity, it is a right they have !
    remember not everyone tested turns out to be the father ,
    statistics were released revealing that one in six men who underwent Paternity Testing on their presumed offspring, were in fact not the father.

    The statistics were released by the Child Support Agency, who estimated that around 3,000 men who had DNA paternity testing in 2005 were being unfairly stung for child maintenance. The paternity testing showed they were not in fact the fathers. But around 84% of all the men who came forward for paternity testing through the Child Support Agency were, it turned out, the fathers. The 3,000 men therefore accounts for a relatively small percentage. Of course, for those men paternity testing makes all the difference to them both emotionally and financially.



    Also both parties arrange with an authorised Dr to take the DNA sample , it is easy and painless, I suppose for some PWCs there maybe some stigma attached with having to take the test but it seems in 2005 16% were very right indeed to take the test.
  • A young relative of mine has made some payments out of naivety and trying to do the right thing. The family were violent to him and he buckled out of fear. The baby does not look like him at all and from the talk of a lot of people it is not his. He is not employed and wants a DNA? If he was found not to be the father would he still have to pay for the DNA? Could he get refund of payments made if he was found not to be the father?
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    teamGB wrote: »
    A young relative of mine has made some payments out of naivety and trying to do the right thing. The family were violent to him and he buckled out of fear. The baby does not look like him at all and from the talk of a lot of people it is not his. He is not employed and wants a DNA? If he was found not to be the father would he still have to pay for the DNA? Could he get refund of payments made if he was found not to be the father?
    http://www.csa.gov.uk/en/about/faq/disputed-parentage.asp
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • DUTR wrote: »
    For those of you that get confused by the terms ASSUMED paternity , remember if the father is not named on the BC and you were not or intended to marry within 300 days of the birth, then there is no assumed paternity, it is not a case of anybody denying paternity, it is a right they have !
    remember not everyone tested turns out to be the father ,
    statistics were released revealing that one in six men who underwent Paternity Testing on their presumed offspring, were in fact not the father.

    The statistics were released by the Child Support Agency, who estimated that around 3,000 men who had DNA paternity testing in 2005 were being unfairly stung for child maintenance. The paternity testing showed they were not in fact the fathers. But around 84% of all the men who came forward for paternity testing through the Child Support Agency were, it turned out, the fathers. The 3,000 men therefore accounts for a relatively small percentage. Of course, for those men paternity testing makes all the difference to them both emotionally and financially.



    Also both parties arrange with an authorised Dr to take the DNA sample , it is easy and painless, I suppose for some PWCs there maybe some stigma attached with having to take the test but it seems in 2005 16% were very right indeed to take the test.

    Indeed they reckon one in three of us doesn't know who our father really is!!
    Please do not confuse me with other gratefulsforhelp. x
  • DUTR
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    Indeed they reckon one in three of us doesn't know who our father really is!!

    Us? :o

    Before my time, there was no argument about any issue for not assuming paternity, as well ......you know, pc correctness and all that :o
  • Well if its really one in three that must include someone on this thread, a name on a birth cert doesn't mean genetic paternity!
    Please do not confuse me with other gratefulsforhelp. x
  • clearingout
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    kelloggs36 wrote: »
    Firstly, is this a new rules case? IE is it a quite recent claim? Secondly, is he named on the birth certificate as being the father?
    The cSA can make presumptions of parentage if the father is named on the birth certificate.

    My now ex-husband and I were married at the point our third child was born. He was on the birth certificate. He denied paternity and was offered a test. So no presumption was made in our case. I guess he must have made a good case for not being the father! He didn't sign the paperwork so was presumed the father in the end!
  • C_Mababejive
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    Jeremy Kyle..?
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • clearingout
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    Jeremy Kyle..?

    Yes, I personally feel I belong on an extended Jezza special! Have contemplated it on more than one occassion, believe me!

    It's not funny, however. The pain caused by a man who fails to face up to his responsibilities towards a new baby is impossible to convey. I know there are those out there who sleep with several men at once, but that doesn't go for all of us. Having to explain to a young man at the CSA that my husband was the father of our third child was one of the worst moments of my life. Signing that paperwork to agree to a DNA test was another. I thought long and hard about not bothering. But at the end of the day, it was about our son knowing who his father was and the father having to face up to that.

    He didn't go through with it. I have often wondered if the girlfriend knows that....!!!!
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