Register plate fitment

muckybutt

Man_Overboard wrote: »

then a sealed register plate is neither here nor there, and will make no difference to anything

It makes a lot of difference ! for starters it stops down draughts and stops you getting smoked out. Theres also issues with co etc etc

Man_Overboard wrote: »

If you just want to put a stove under your existing ceramic or brick-built flue, then the last thing you want is a sealed register plate, which is likely to create all sorts of problems.

Poppycok ! can you name the problems ?

Ive been a sweep for best part of 8 years, ALL stoves I sweep have register plates fitted - some with liners - some without, I have yet to see any chimneys that have been damaged or have problems because a sealed register plate has been fitted.

Man_Overboard wrote: »

Just place the stove on the hearth, with a short length of stove pipe leading into the chimney, and continue as before - the fire in the stove will be no different from the fire you used to burn in the fireplace

Wrong again :wall:

So you get a nice efficent stove get it going all nice and warm and throw most of the heat back up the chimney again like an open fire ! doh !

You wont get a correct burn through the stove and a lot of the flue gasses wont get burnt off correctly, been there done that with a stove I had many years ago !
Open the door in a different room and the smoke gets dragged back into the room, a windy day and you again get smoked out.

Can I ask as to what qualifications or knowledge you have reguarding fitting of liners - register plates etc ?

Man_Overboard_2

All my comments refer to chimneys which do not suffer from downdraught problems, and which are properly supplied with air irrespective of which doors or windows are open or closed.

I would not recommend any kind of solid fuel installation in the situations which you describe.

If a flue liner is properly terminated at roof level and properly connected to the stove, then you will have a closed flue from top to bottom - a register plate will make no difference at all to any kind of movement of air or gas within the flue.

If you instal a sealed register plate at the bottom of a brick-built flue (no flue liner), there is a risk that the resultant closed flue will not be able to deal with the resultant high temperatures. There is also a risk that the soot and tar which settles on top of the plate will not be totally removeable. And the worst cases of tar deposits are usually to be found in a closed flue - a flue liner is replaceable, but a brick built chimney flue is not.

A stand-alone stove is simply a fireplace on legs - it has a back and two sides, a base, and an outlet at the top. It also has a door, but you will get many different opinions about what effect the door will have on the behaviour of the stove.

If you put a stove into a fireplace without a register plate or a flue liner, the only real difference is the appearance - it's just one fireplace standing inside another fireplace.

muckybutt

Man_Overboard wrote: »

All my comments refer to chimneys which do not suffer from downdraught problems, and which are properly supplied with air irrespective of which doors or windows are open or closed.

I would not recommend any kind of solid fuel installation in the situations which you describe.

If a flue liner is properly terminated at roof level and properly connected to the stove, then you will have a closed flue from top to bottom - a register plate will make no difference at all to any kind of movement of air or gas within the flue.

If you instal a sealed register plate at the bottom of a brick-built flue (no flue liner), there is a risk that the resultant closed flue will not be able to deal with the resultant high temperatures. There is also a risk that the soot and tar which settles on top of the plate will not be totally removeable. And the worst cases of tar deposits are usually to be found in a closed flue - a flue liner is replaceable, but a brick built chimney flue is not.

A stand-alone stove is simply a fireplace on legs - it has a back and two sides, a base, and an outlet at the top. It also has a door, but you will get many different opinions about what effect the door will have on the behaviour of the stove.

If you put a stove into a fireplace without a register plate or a flue liner, the only real difference is the appearance - it's just one fireplace standing inside another fireplace.

I give up :doh:....you just cant tell some people :silenced: