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  • debrag
    debrag Posts: 3,426 Forumite
    edited 30 September 2012 at 4:55AM
    Never been to Newham but have heard stories about it :( Much of the east end of London is rough.......

    Dagenham and Barking is still Essex as far as I'm concerned. OK, it may be in a Lonwhitechapeldon Borough (same as Sutton, Surrey is) but strictly speaking no-one considers Barking as London. And all Londoners will know what I mean by that .......

    I personally don't like anything east of tower hamlets. Love bow and work in whitechapel
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    Auntie Nelly and Uncle Bill lived in....brace yourself for a swearword.....Lancashire.

    They rode a tandem bike until they were well into their eighties.

    I always thought that it was rather sweet.

    Didn't occur to me that they had no choice due to the limited forms of transport up there.

    Uncle Bill used to have a saying when we were kids...something like "owt for nowt and nowt for owt"...can't remember the rest.

    Am loving the thought of Yorkshire more and more.

    And still laughing at your post!


    During the War of the Roses in a Lancashire village near the border the villagers hear the cry "one Yorkshireman is stronger than a hundred Lancashire men!" so they run towards the source but none return. The following day further along the border the same thing happens and again nobody returns. On the third day the cry is heard again but, before the men of the third village reach the source, they are stopped by a lone survivor who says "wait! It's a trap there's two of 'em".


    A Lancastrian is the result of an incestuous union between a Yorkshire sheep farmer and one of his flock.


    To be fair there are many good things to come out of Yorkshire - most of them roads into Lancashire.


    An American on holiday in England was inside a church in Oldham taking photographs when he noticed a golden telephone mounted on the wall with a sign that read '£10,000 per call'. Intrigued, the tourist asked a vicar who was strolling by what the telephone was used for. The vicar replied that it was a direct line to heaven and that for £10,000 you could talk to God. The tourist thanked the vicar and left.

    Next stop was in Manchester. There, at the cathedral, the American saw another golden telephone with the same sign under it. He wondered if this was the same kind of telephone he saw in Oldham and he asked a nearby nun what its purpose was. She told him that it was a direct line to heaven and that for £10,000 he could talk to God. The tourist thanked the nun and left.

    The American then travelled to churches in Blackburn, Burnley, Rochdale, Bolton and Preston. In every church he saw the same golden telephone with the same '£10,000 per call' sign under it. Upon leaving Lancashire the tourist decided to travel to Yorkshire to see if Yorkshiremen had the same phone.

    He arrived in Sheffield, and again, in the first church he entered, there was the same golden telephone, but this time the sign beneath read '50 pence per call.' The American was surprised so he asked the priest about the sign. "Father, I've seen this same golden telephone in many churches. I'm told that it is a direct line to heaven, but in Lancashire the price was £10,000 per call. Why is it so cheap here?"

    The priest smiled and answered, "You're in Yorkshire now, son ... it's a local call."
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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,190 Forumite
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    "a 25-30k job in the north east is the equivalent of 70-80k in the south."

    How do you work that one out?

    In terms of housing costs, it's probably about right.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,190 Forumite
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    How I would love to live in Chelsea.

    Not me! There are some okay bits, but it's too noisy, too busy, and too smelly for me.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • "a 25-30k job in the north east is the equivalent of 70-80k in the south."

    How do you work that one out?
    i worked it out from working in various parts of the south and looking at property prices,cost of living etc a 2 bed flat i looked at in an example area was 249k down south,the same size flat in a nice area,was 80k to buy up north as for crime,its a lot safer in my neck of the woods,gun crime is virtually unheard of,as is gangland crime,we have a few estates that live on the breadline but thats about it.Jobs don't pay that less up north,for relocating down south i got offered 2k extra,for the outskirts of london.for london,an extra 5k,not worth it.People tend to jump to conclusions before actually visiting these places.
  • Fire_Fox wrote: »
    :rotfl: Again have you lived and worked up north for a decent chunk of your adult life or are you getting all your 'facts' from the tabloids? There is absolutely no point in debating with someone who selects half a sentence at a time, completely changing the sense of the post.

    How many of the cities you speak of have you actually been to? I'm going to stick my neck out and say my parents are fairly good authorities on this - Europe many times, all the way to China and back, Oz and New Zealand, right around south and north America. All in a motorhome, out of the UK more than in it since they retired in the nineties. :cool: http://www.xor.org.uk/silkroute/index.html




    Well I am glad you told me that about cars. Now you say all this I have absolutely no idea how I have managed for all these decades without one. :rotfl: Obviously you having lived in the north for so many years you'd know all about how we all stand about in the rain day after day. It's so backwards we don't have taxis, relatives or colleagues with cars, bus stops with shelters on our doorsteps, golf umbrellas, internet connection for home delivery ..... :(


    I've also travelled extensively around the globe, and I've lived abroad too. I've done almost all of Europe, lived for a short time in Australia, have been to the US, North Africa, Asia.....so I've seen a lot :)

    I am a born and bred Londoner but I've also travelled around the UK and stayed with relatives in northern towns etc. I'm not just speaking from snippets that I've read.

    I'm probably one of the most travelled persons amongst all my friends and family - I love travelling and seeing different places!:)

    As for the convenience of a car - you're obviously so used to being without one that you've learned to adapt. But life is definitely easier when you have one!

    It's all very well saying you can rely on relatives for lifts (good job THEY'VE got a car isn't it?!!!!):D and it's all very well saying you can get a taxi - but how much would a taxi cost to ferry you about to various shops? And whilst online shopping is very good in many ways (I do it myself) there are times when you need or just want to go into a shop. It's very difficult choosing, say, material, carpets, cosmetics, linens etc online. Or jewellery. There are some things you have to actually see before you buy them, or feel...then you have things like hair salons.....

    Of course a car makes life easier!
  • GDB2222 wrote: »
    Not me! There are some okay bits, but it's too noisy, too busy, and too smelly for me.


    Miaow!

    Saucer of milk?:D
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    edited 1 October 2012 at 3:14AM
    As for the convenience of a car - you're obviously so used to being without one that you've learned to adapt. But life is definitely easier when you have one!

    It's all very well saying you can rely on relatives for lifts (good job THEY'VE got a car isn't it?!!!!):D and it's all very well saying you can get a taxi - but how much would a taxi cost to ferry you about to various shops? And whilst online shopping is very good in many ways (I do it myself) there are times when you need or just want to go into a shop. It's very difficult choosing, say, material, carpets, cosmetics, linens etc online. Or jewellery. There are some things you have to actually see before you buy them, or feel...then you have things like hair salons.....

    Of course a car makes life easier!

    Rely?? Sounds like it's you who is reliant. I am going to stick my neck out here and suggest I know MY lifestyle and MY neighbourhood better than you do. Pretty sure I can get myself to various household stores using the buses on my doorstep, trains three minutes walk away and taxi rank one minute away, or perhaps I have false memory syndrome? :rotfl:

    I buy well over half of my beauty products online (eczematous skin) and collect vintage costume jewellery most of which I import from the US! Bearing in mind I live in a city centre, how far do you suppose the nearest hair salon and make up counter is? :rotfl:
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  • Fire_Fox wrote: »
    Rely?? Sounds like it's you who is reliant. I am going to stick my neck out here and suggest I know MY lifestyle and MY neighbourhood better than you do. Pretty sure I can get myself to various household stores using the buses on my doorstep, trains three minutes walk away and taxi rank one minute away, or perhaps I have false memory syndrome? :rotfl:

    I buy well over half of my beauty products online (eczematous skin) and collect vintage costume jewellery most of which I import from the US! Bearing in mind I live in a city centre, how far do you suppose the nearest hair salon and make up counter is? :rotfl:

    Never mind make up counters and hair salons.

    How far is the nearest betting shop?
    Pound shop?
    Pawnbroker?
    Cash Converter?
    Fried chicken outlet?
  • Fire_Fox wrote: »
    Rely?? Sounds like it's you who is reliant. I am going to stick my neck out here and suggest I know MY lifestyle and MY neighbourhood better than you do. Pretty sure I can get myself to various household stores using the buses on my doorstep, trains three minutes walk away and taxi rank one minute away, or perhaps I have false memory syndrome? :rotfl:

    I buy well over half of my beauty products online (eczematous skin) and collect vintage costume jewellery most of which I import from the US! Bearing in mind I live in a city centre, how far do you suppose the nearest hair salon and make up counter is? :rotfl:


    Look, I don't need to know your aea to know that a car makes life easier - wherever you live.:p

    Maybe when you do venture out you only buy a few things from one shop, but if you need to buy several items from several diferent shops, and you have to take half a dozen buses to do it all in - to me - that's called time consuming INCONVENIENCE.

    Besides, I like being all warm and cosy in the car in winter with all my shopping in the boot, maybe the Christmas Tree on top! :j and not having bags digging into my palms as I'm lugging shopping to the bus stop or taxi rank.:D

    By the way, be careful of buying cosmetics online. Unless you buy from a reputable dealer they could be fake - and dangerous.
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