The 2 working parent family

Graham_Devon

CLAPTON wrote: »

the figures would seem to indicate that

over 60% of babyboomers lived in non centrally heated houses at least until they were 15 years.

for the oldest half of the baby boomers (born 1945-55 ish) it would indicate that over 70% of the baby boomers lived in non central heated houses until they at least 15 years old

of course they benefited from the heat greater density of people in the houses.

I meant in terms of the babyboomers who bought houses, and lord it over others stating they didn't have central heating, only had tin bath, blah blah blah while the youngsters today buy ipads and throw them into rivers for fun.

LydiaJ

CLAPTON wrote: »

even in 1970 30% of households had central heating, over 50% by 1980 and 79% by 1990

so depends upon what is meant by 'not common'

Large numbers of urban households installed central heating in the 1970s when they found themselves no longer able to burn coal in the grate because of being in a smokeless zone as a result of the Clean air act 1968. The alternative would be to put gas or electric fires in all the rooms where you used to have open fires, which would probably end up costing more in the long run because of the increased fuel costs.

So in many cases central heating was not so much of a "me me me - must have luxury" thing as an "oh no - can't heat the house the way we always did - better try to get the best value for money on a way of heating our home that's permitted under the new rules".

CLAPTON

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I meant in terms of the babyboomers who bought houses, and lord it over others stating they didn't have central heating, only had tin bath, blah blah blah while the youngsters today buy ipads and throw them into rivers for fun.

you interpret the figures as you will, but it would seem that the majority of baby boomers lacked central heating in their youth ... after 15 years I suppose it didn't matter much as by then they were all down pit where I believe it's quite warm.

I've no figures on tin baths.

chewmylegoff

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

You are the son of a teacher!!

I find that very hard to believe going on the way you write and articulate yourself. And for future reference it is "I went to primary" "I wish" "I have and older sister".

you really shouldn't bother with grammar pedantry, it always, always, always backfires on the pedant and makes them look like a complete tool. it is a form of internet karma.

multiple punctuation marks are unnecessary; never start a sentence with the word "and"; and always check for typos.

you can use capital letters though, so well done for that.

ukcarper

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I meant in terms of the babyboomers who bought houses, and lord it over others stating they didn't have central heating, only had tin bath, blah blah blah while the youngsters today buy ipads and throw them into rivers for fun.

Can you point to any posts where boomers have said they bought houses with only a tin bath.

I personally used a tin bath until I was 16 when my parents got a council house which did not have central heating.

The first house I bought a new build supposedly had central heating but it was nothing more than a oil fire in the lounge mind you it was better than I had before.

greenbubble

The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class

youtube link from a UC Berkeley Graduate Council Lecture given by Elizabeth Warren a bankrupty lawyer at Harvard Law school.

pretty much covers most of the topic you are discussing.

how about turning the question around , why do we have to have two people working and who really benefits ... ?

Loughton_Monkey

Graham_Devon wrote: »

...... have clouded my thoughts.

Is that possible?

Loughton_Monkey

chewmylegoff wrote: »

...multiple punctuation marks are unnecessary; never start a sentence with the word "and"; and always check for typos....

It is wrong to always split your infinitives.

And a preposition is the wrong thing to end a sentence with.

Mrs_Arcanum

LydiaJ wrote: »

Large numbers of urban households installed central heating in the 1970s when they found themselves no longer able to burn coal in the grate because of being in a smokeless zone as a result of the Clean air act 1968. The alternative would be to put gas or electric fires in all the rooms where you used to have open fires, which would probably end up costing more in the long run because of the increased fuel costs.

So in many cases central heating was not so much of a "me me me - must have luxury" thing as an "oh no - can't heat the house the way we always did - better try to get the best value for money on a way of heating our home that's permitted under the new rules".

We got gas fires with a "miser rate" option my Father always used. :rotfl: First thing my Mother did after he died was put in central heating.

There again we did get one of the first colour TV's (brother worked in an electrical retailers at the time).

embob74

Born in the 70's and I don't recall having central heating as a child.....I distinctly remember breaking icicles from the INSIDE of the windows!!
Mind you we don't have central heating now and I do so miss it.

My mum always worked from when I was little and was in fact the higher earner in our household. In the 80's we lived on a council estate where we were considered posh because we were a 2 car family. Most mums worked but on a part-time, unskilled basis. When parents bought a house we were the norm in terms of jobs and cars.

I believe a lot of it has to do with expectations. Women expect to be able to go for pretty much any career they wish although I do believe men and women are definitely NOT equal after having children.
I remember having the careers advisor advising all the girls to be a secretary :eek: which I found very demeaning.

As it turns out I ended up being a secretary :rotfl: