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I absolutely despise Tories a simple yes or no.
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Gracchus_Babeuf wrote: »Left and right are meaningless concepts in modern politics; they belong in the 19th century, not in the modern world. Today you can be a leftist social libertarian and a right wing economic monetarist - so where does that put you? Likewise you can be a Keynesian economic interventionist and a social conservative. Again, where does it put you?
The problem is that we need an electoral system that can offer fair parliamentary representation, and that means PR. We need more smaller parties like the Greens, UKIP and even the BNP to be represented, so that all shades of political opinion can have a voice. The current system encourages a 'cartel' of large parties who then agree to go through the motions in parliamentary debates but basically have few differences between them. This is not proper democracy in my view.
I was at the English Democrats Party annual conference yesterday. I've been a member for a few years now. I assume you haven't heard of them? http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/
We agree that left and right are meaningless concepts. We state that we're 'not left, not right, just English'.[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Æ[/FONT]r ic wisdom funde, [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]æ[/FONT]r wear[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]ð[/FONT] ic eald.
Before I found wisdom, I became old.0 -
margaretclare wrote: »I was at the English Democrats Party annual conference yesterday. I've been a member for a few years now. I assume you haven't heard of them? http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/
We agree that left and right are meaningless concepts. We state that we're 'not left, not right, just English'.
From a glance of the website it looks to me like a combination of the wishywashy niceness and economic realism of the LibDems, the little (white) Englandism of the BNP, with a touch of Mr Angry from the Express.0 -
Could you point me to the time when we didn't actually have a national debt? Take a look at this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK_National_Debt_interest.png
Thank you, I meant they always seem to leave more debt.GE 36 *MFD may 2043
MFIT-T5 #60 £136,850.30
Mortgage overpayments 2019 - £285.96
2020 Jan-£40-feb-£18.28.march-£25
Christmas savings card 2020 £20/£100
Emergency savings £100/£500
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Thank you, I meant they always seem to leave more debt.
So was it more in 2010 than in 1997?
So was it more in 1972 than 1964?
So was it higher in 1952 than 1945?Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
Thank you, I meant they always seem to leave more debt.
It might be more but it doesn't cost us as much (refer to chart).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK...t_interest.png'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
It might be more but it doesn't cost us as much (refer to chart).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK...t_interest.png
Which is the ideal time to pay more of it off whilst interest rates are lower.GE 36 *MFD may 2043
MFIT-T5 #60 £136,850.30
Mortgage overpayments 2019 - £285.96
2020 Jan-£40-feb-£18.28.march-£25
Christmas savings card 2020 £20/£100
Emergency savings £100/£500
12/3/17 175lb - 06/11/2019 152lb0 -
Which is the ideal time to pay more of it off whilst interest rates are lower.
Can't see them trying to pay it off...they never have...they're just trying to stop it rising at a rapid rate..
It doesnt matter whos in power ..the national debt has continued to rise...all previous governments had budget deficits..
Not that I'm bothered whos in power...but the tory voters don't seem to reckonise the massive budget deficit they had in 1992..
There was no banking crisis...just a recession ..but the figures show 8% borrowing to GDP....
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47530000/gif/_47530170_uk_budget2010_466x345.gif0 -
Which is the ideal time to pay more of it off whilst interest rates are lower.
Not really, that would be when you are paying 8%+.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0
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