Town and Country Parking cameras and tickets

James_glasgow

I received a pcn charge ,I have no intention of paying but worried about new law I live Glasgow so wondering if it different in Scotland as elsewhere have received letter from town and city stating that I wasn't parked in bay and the charge had gone up, as stated no intention of paying so where do I stand regarding new law October 2012 ps am a newbie cheers

trisontana

The new law doesn't change anything. Once an unenforceable invoice, always an unenforceable invoice. It's worth quoting this from a PePiPoo thread:-

There is a lot of misinformation around concerning the Protection of Freedoms Act. This is largely pedalled by the private parking companies in an attempt to add some kind of legitimacy to their charges, not helped by sloppy and lazy journalism which regurgitates what the parking companies say without checking if it's true or not.

Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 introduces the concept of Keeper Liability for private parking charges if the registered keeper fails to divulge who the driver was. That is all.

* It does not make parking charges enforceable (or any more enforceable than they were before, which, on the whole is not enforceable at all)

* It does not require the registered keeper to name the driver on request - there is no obligation. If the keeper fails to name the driver, the "liability" (such as it is) reverts to the keeper (see previous point). If the driver and keeper are the same person, then there is no difference anyway.

* It does not set out any kind of statutory framework for parking charges, they are still based on contract law or trespass, and in that respect nothing has changed

* It does not define the wording that must be used to make parking charge notices "legal" or "enforceable". The Act sets out wording and points that must be included in order for the parking company to be able to apply keeper liability, but using all the correct words does not make the notice any more legally enforceable than it was before (see point 1)

pogofish

James_glasgow wrote: »

I received a pcn charge ,I have no intention of paying but worried about new law I live Glasgow so wondering if it different in Scotland as elsewhere have received letter from town and city stating that I wasn't parked in bay and the charge had gone up, as stated no intention of paying so where do I stand regarding new law October 2012 ps am a newbie cheers

Stand wherever you want.

There in no new law in Scotland or NI. This only applies to England and Wales.

bunnypie

Today I received my second letter from Debt Recovery Services. It says that to prevent potential County Court proceedings issued against me, payment must be made in the next 7 days. For 110 quid.

It says if I do not pay or contact them then they will assume I am avoiding payment. "In this situation out solicitor may issue County COurt proceedings against me". It then goes on to say if County Court Judgement is obtained then the amount I owe will increase:

"A COUNTY COURT JUDGEMENT MAY SERIOUSLY AFFECT YOUR ABILITY TO OBTAIN CREDIT IN THE FUTURE"

At the bottom it then says I can view a selection of CCJs they have obtained against people who have ignored their corresponence on their website...


i am aware everybody has said this is still not valid, and i believe they design their letters in a way that will scare people. when you look closely you can see that it is all a bit vague...

shall i just continue to ignore it and hope they give up?

i am a student and i can't afford to pay this unfair charge!

taffy056

Yes ignore them, this is just part of a series of threatograms you'll get, once it goes through to the end without payment they will go away looking for an easier person to threaten with their illegal demands

Coupon-mad

bunnypie wrote: »

Today I received my second letter from Debt Recovery Services. It says that to prevent potential County Court proceedings issued against me, payment must be made in the next 7 days. For 110 quid.

It says if I do not pay or contact them then they will assume I am avoiding payment. "In this situation out solicitor may issue County COurt proceedings against me". It then goes on to say if County Court Judgement is obtained then the amount I owe will increase:

"A COUNTY COURT JUDGEMENT MAY SERIOUSLY AFFECT YOUR ABILITY TO OBTAIN CREDIT IN THE FUTURE"

At the bottom it then says I can view a selection of CCJs they have obtained against people who have ignored their corresponence on their website...


i am aware everybody has said this is still not valid, and i believe they design their letters in a way that will scare people. when you look closely you can see that it is all a bit vague...

shall i just continue to ignore it and hope they give up?

i am a student and i can't afford to pay this unfair charge!

You can see all the Debt Recovery Plus letters on the sticky thread which is permanently near the top of the forum; this was under your nose all the time:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2329119

Please, just 'grow a pair' - this is just a boring, predictable mail scam, like phishing emails. You should have been playing a nice game of 'snap' with these letters by now! :rotfl:

tospig

bunnypie wrote: »

shall i just continue to ignore it and hope they give up?

Yes, and they will.

here are all my debt recovery plus letters:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/89511704@N03/8145428304/

look familiar?
absolutely nothing to worry about.

bunnypie

I couldn't find debt recovery on that list but yes they look familiar thank you :-) looks like a lot tho!!

Coupon-mad

bunnypie wrote: »

I couldn't find debt recovery on that list but yes they look familiar thank you :-) looks like a lot tho!!

You couldn't find any DRP letters here??????

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2329119

...are we looking at the same thread? DRP letters under several PPC headings there.

bunnypie

I meant the ones from the company that sent them to me coupon mad!! Sorry if I'm being dumb, as I said previously I am a newbie and not good with the Internet etc!