Mystery Shopping Thread 24 *PLEASE READ THE OP FIRST**PLEASE NO CLIENT NAMES OR FEES

DPJames

I always ask for a receipt when I'm with the kids. They always get a balloon each and our trays get taken away.
"Do you want your receipt?"
"Too right I do. Now pamper me, and obey my every whim underling."

SINBAD_2

I've given up on MF- waste of time and money after being refused payment for the most annoying things (used saynoto0870 to avoid 0844 number) but will ask for the receipt still- a good idea!

Wonder what low pay commision would make of the rates paid....

skintsocks

perhaps I'm missing something, but if you accept an assignment, then you accept the fees?

Big_Graeme

SINBAD wrote: »

I've given up on MF- waste of time and money after being refused payment for the most annoying things (used saynoto0870 to avoid 0844 number) but will ask for the receipt still- a good idea!

Wonder what low pay commision would make of the rates paid....

I know. Imagine, they want you to read the brief and stick to it, the nerve...

BTW, you are acting as a contractor, if you don't think the wages are good enough then don't take the job.

SINBAD_2

Big_Graeme wrote: »

I know. Imagine, they want you to read the brief and stick to it, the nerve...

BTW, you are acting as a contractor, if you don't think the wages are good enough then don't take the job.

Follow that argument to its logical conclusion and there would be no job security in any job- everyone would just turn up for work, hope there was some work avaliable, and if there was, be paid per task completed 100% to boss' satisfaction. Permanent contracts would not exist.

You're not a Tory MP are you?

whitelabel

SINBAD wrote: »

Follow that argument to its logical conclusion and there would be no job security in any job- everyone would just turn up for work, hope there was some work avaliable, and if there was, be paid per task completed 100% to boss' satisfaction. Permanent contracts would not exist.

You're not a Tory MP are you?

but thats the difference to being employed and self employed isnt it

being employed you turn up to work where you are told to, do what you boss tells you to, and if there is no work, you should either still get paid or long term made redundant


self employed, you chose where and when you work and for how much
if you dont work you dont get paid,
but that choice is yours

this type of work is offered on the self employed basis for that reason
no way they can force you to take crappy jobs and equally you are not under obligation to do them and of course there is no security in it

SINBAD_2

you say that there is a choice- but in this era of high unemployment- and underemployment- many people do not have the choice about what job they do.

I believe that people in any job- self employed or employed by a company- should have basic rights like being paid for the work that they do, even if isn't done 100% correctly. Maybe not the full amout- but if you work on a job for an hour, you should be at least paid the minimum wage.

Boredupnorth

SINBAD wrote: »

you say that there is a choice- but in this era of high unemployment- and underemployment- many people do not have the choice about what job they do.

I believe that people in any job- self employed or employed by a company- should have basic rights like being paid for the work that they do, even if isn't done 100% correctly. Maybe not the full amout- but if you work on a job for an hour, you should be at least paid the minimum wage.

So you take a job and do not do it correctly and still believe they should pay you something? Why would they? Why should they? Your work was not done to the required standard...tough luck your loss

whitelabel

SINBAD wrote: »

you say that there is a choice- but in this era of high unemployment- and underemployment- many people do not have the choice about what job they do.

I believe that people in any job- self employed or employed by a company- should have basic rights like being paid for the work that they do, even if isn't done 100% correctly. Maybe not the full amout- but if you work on a job for an hour, you should be at least paid the minimum wage.

Boredupnorth wrote: »

So you take a job and do not do it correctly and still believe they should pay you something? Why would they? Why should they? Your work was not done to the required standard...tough luck your loss

and from that money paid, would you be willing to pay for the work to be corrected or done properly ?

thats what happens in the real world of contracts... just ask G4S, or read an IMS contract

we are talking about self employed work to a specific brief that usually states, if you dont follow the details in the brief you wont be paid.
not that if you do 1/2 a job we will pay you for 1/2 a job
if you want guaranteed minimum wage job, then get a minimum wage employed job

I disagree about choice, as a self employed person you always have the choice who you work for. Better paid jobs are there for the people who seek and deserve them. If people didnt accept the lowest paid job because it was the first thing offered, they may find that, that job then gets its fee doubled. Companies will, offer what they can get away with, but it is the shoppers who ultimately lets them get away with it

Big_Graeme

SINBAD wrote: »

Follow that argument to its logical conclusion and there would be no job security in any job- everyone would just turn up for work, hope there was some work avaliable, and if there was, be paid per task completed 100% to boss' satisfaction. Permanent contracts would not exist.

I don't think this line of work is for you by the looks of it, this work is what it is, those who get on and do the job get paid and get better offers, those that don't work for MF and Amber Arch. No one forces you to do anything.

Loads of people think this is money for old rope, buy a bit of tat, tell 'em how bad the service was and bank a top fee, sorry. It isn't.

SINBAD wrote: »

You're not a Tory MP are you?

:rotfl:You couldn't be any more wrong if you tried.