Five Star Cars - Watchdog

fivetide

Re costs - they rarely get the money back even on Rogue Traders and they always seem to cough up before jumping on the scammers.

I'm sure all the info is made available to police/TS it isn't for the BBC to decide whether to prosecute. they just gather evidence.

I would suspect the actual costs of the work/items/cars is minimal compared to the over all cost of the programme but it does rankle a bit.

5t.

Heliflyguy

It seems crazy that he can still trade with I think it was 5 ccj's against him, made my blood boil.
I think the cost is small to bring these low life crooks to our attention.

worried_jim

I didn't know that Meercats had started selling cars as well!

Tilt

Unfortunately this 'dealer' is not unique these days. we need tougher legislation to close these cowboys down permanently. The problem is that although we have SOGA, joe public have to use the County Court where the best that can happen is a CCJ being issued. Well, as we saw last night, that dosn't seem to have any effect on these kind of rogues.

s_b

Tilt wrote: »

Unfortunately this 'dealer' is not unique these days. we need tougher legislation to close these cowboys down permanently. The problem is that although we have SOGA, joe public have to use the County Court where the best that can happen is a CCJ being issued. Well, as we saw last night, that dosn't seem to have any effect on these kind of rogues.

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/extra/news-item.cfm/newsid/956

The cost of bringing the case to court was partly met by a grant from the Office of Fair Trading.

everything comes down to money and it would appear local tradoff standings dont have any
pathetic isnt it

TrickyWicky

Heliflyguy wrote: »

It seems crazy that he can still trade with I think it was 5 ccj's against him, made my blood boil.

I'm surprised the bailiffs haven't been sent in with the police to be honest.

TamA

ankspon wrote: »

It was funny how Matt said tongue in cheek how he was riding solo after his former companion was convicted of benefit fraud and sacked.

I especially enjoyed that bit!

I didnt think 5 start were that bad to be honest. In the end the car did get MOT'd. The only faults they could pick out were:

-Bumper hanging off. Obviously not so bad that it failed the MOT so no problem of 5 stars. When the BBC bought the car they knew it's condition along with the bumper.

-No stereo. Again why does this matter? buyer was happy when he looked at the car.

-a few knocking noises. Obviously if it passed the MOT it is roadworthy. Bushes can be ruined and a car can still pass an MOT as long as the part is not as risk of falling off. If the buyer is happy at time of purchase then so be it.

-No V5. BBC didnt say they couldnt have applied for it from DVLA. If something was dodgy about this they would have mentioned it. A real buyer could easily apply.

5 star did say the car was in good condition and they were right in their opinion. Bad condition ones are in the scrap yard and not on the road.

On top of that at the end they said when they wanted a refund, 5 star would only give them it once they had the v5. Who wouldnt?! any dealer wouldnt accept a car without a v5! they would be liable to all of the owners parking tickets, speeding fines since they had the car. They dont even have to give a refund in the first place but they still agreed to!

The guy at the start with the Seat Ibiza sounded like he just needed his wheels balanced or new wheels at worst if they were warped. It was a bit over the top scrapping an 06 plate ibiza which would have had an MOT!

Things I have seen in the trade have been a lot worse. In the MOT if you can see it you cant fail it. Fiberglass and grease over what would usually fail like rusty sills and brake lines. There are plenty of traders out there in this horrible climate which are desperate to make a quick buck and many will do a lot worse than that.

BBC were clutching straws in this episode.

Tilt

TamA wrote: »

I especially enjoyed that bit!

I didnt think 5 start were that bad to be honest. In the end the car did get MOT'd. The only faults they could pick out were:

-Bumper hanging off. Obviously not so bad that it failed the MOT so no problem of 5 stars. When the BBC bought the car they knew it's condition along with the bumper.

-No stereo. Again why does this matter? buyer was happy when he looked at the car.

-a few knocking noises. Obviously if it passed the MOT it is roadworthy. Bushes can be ruined and a car can still pass an MOT as long as the part is not as risk of falling off. If the buyer is happy at time of purchase then so be it.

-No V5. BBC didnt say they couldnt have applied for it from DVLA. If something was dodgy about this they would have mentioned it. A real buyer could easily apply.

5 star did say the car was in good condition and they were right in their opinion. Bad condition ones are in the scrap yard and not on the road.

On top of that at the end they said when they wanted a refund, 5 star would only give them it once they had the v5. Who wouldnt?! any dealer wouldnt accept a car without a v5! they would be liable to all of the owners parking tickets, speeding fines since they had the car. They dont even have to give a refund in the first place but they still agreed to!

The guy at the start with the Seat Ibiza sounded like he just needed his wheels balanced or new wheels at worst if they were warped. It was a bit over the top scrapping an 06 plate ibiza which would have had an MOT!

Things I have seen in the trade have been a lot worse. In the MOT if you can see it you cant fail it. Fiberglass and grease over what would usually fail like rusty sills and brake lines. There are plenty of traders out there in this horrible climate which are desperate to make a quick buck and many will do a lot worse than that.

BBC were clutching straws in this episode.

You obviously watched a different episode to me. You say that no dealer would accept a car without the V5 but this dealer couldn't produce it?? So why would the buyer be expected to produce it when the dealer didn't provide it in the first place??

Why do you say that "they don't have to give a refund in the first place but still agreed to" when on the version I watched, the guy said "when I am dead".

Clearly you are a trader attempting to make people think that they have no rights.

interstellaflyer

Tilt wrote: »

Clearly you are a trader attempting to make people think that they have no rights.

Maybe He's Servat.

poppasmurf_bewdley

TamA wrote: »

I especially enjoyed that bit!

I didnt think 5 start were that bad to be honest. In the end the car did get MOT'd. The only faults they could pick out were:

-Bumper hanging off. Obviously not so bad that it failed the MOT so no problem of 5 stars. When the BBC bought the car they knew it's condition along with the bumper.

-No stereo. Again why does this matter? buyer was happy when he looked at the car.

-a few knocking noises. Obviously if it passed the MOT it is roadworthy. Bushes can be ruined and a car can still pass an MOT as long as the part is not as risk of falling off. If the buyer is happy at time of purchase then so be it.

-No V5. BBC didnt say they couldnt have applied for it from DVLA. If something was dodgy about this they would have mentioned it. A real buyer could easily apply.

5 star did say the car was in good condition and they were right in their opinion. Bad condition ones are in the scrap yard and not on the road.

On top of that at the end they said when they wanted a refund, 5 star would only give them it once they had the v5. Who wouldnt?! any dealer wouldnt accept a car without a v5! they would be liable to all of the owners parking tickets, speeding fines since they had the car. They dont even have to give a refund in the first place but they still agreed to!

The guy at the start with the Seat Ibiza sounded like he just needed his wheels balanced or new wheels at worst if they were warped. It was a bit over the top scrapping an 06 plate ibiza which would have had an MOT!

Things I have seen in the trade have been a lot worse. In the MOT if you can see it you cant fail it. Fiberglass and grease over what would usually fail like rusty sills and brake lines. There are plenty of traders out there in this horrible climate which are desperate to make a quick buck and many will do a lot worse than that.

BBC were clutching straws in this episode.

Since when don't dealers have to give a refund?

Didn't the BBC expert refuse to drive the car on the road because of the dangerous condition he found the car to be in?

What utter tosh about the MOT.