State workers still enjoy advantage over private employees

Jamie_Carter

BobQ wrote: »

If you bothered to look I mentioned foresnic science in the first place and I did not confine myself to England and Wales.

I really do not care if these jobs are done in the public or private sector but the orginal point was an assertion that those working for the civil service were all pen pushers whereas a good many are professional people like scientists, engineers, actuaries and accountants which is why the original statistic purporting to show that the public sector is paid more than the private sector is so wilfully misleading.

Yes, I'm not arguing with you, I agree with you.

Jamie_Carter

chewmylegoff wrote: »

To be fair, when you drill down into the underlying documents these do show that public sector is higher skilled than the private sector, whilst graduates in the private sector earn more than in the public. However, with the pay comparisons it is not clear if they are just taking salary into account or if it is total remuneration including pensions. It is also not clear how they are assessing what a "high skilled" job is since they refer to IT support as high skilled it is quite difficult to take their categorisations seriously.

The overall conclusion appeared to e that any comparison is meaningless, which is probably right...

You are just twisting the figures around to suit your agenda...but then you are an accountant

chewmylegoff

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

You are just twisting the figures around to suit your agenda...but then you are an accountant

since i didn't quote any figures at all, it is difficult to see how you came to that conclusion.

Loughton_Monkey

chewmylegoff wrote: »

since i didn't quote any figures at all, it is difficult to see how you came to that conclusion.

Easy. He thinks he can read your mind.

Jamie_Carter

chewmylegoff wrote: »

since i didn't quote any figures at all, it is difficult to see how you came to that conclusion.

Read your own post.

chewmylegoff

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Read your own post.

I've read it, there are still no figures in it.

Jamie_Carter

chewmylegoff wrote: »

I've read it, there are still no figures in it.

Don't get pedantic! You know exactly what I mean. You don't mention actual figures, but you refer to amounts. And you are still twisting them in order to cause an argument....trolling!

caringa

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Public sector workers are the backbone of this country.

Think it should be slightly reworded - public sector workers will break the backbone of this country!

Jamie_Carter

caringa wrote: »

Think it should be slightly reworded - public sector workers will break the backbone of this country!

We would be stuffed without them!

chewmylegoff

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Don't get pedantic! You know exactly what I mean. You don't mention actual figures, but you refer to amounts. And you are still twisting them in order to cause an argument....trolling!

What a ridiculous post. Nowhere in the links that I could see did it say whether it was comparing salary or total remuneration, which is pretty important when comparing public to private because of the significant difference in pension provision. Maybe it is there and I missed it, but it's hardly trolling to raise the issue. Furthermore the link did describe IT support as a highly skilled job which isn't really my understanding of what highly skilled means, perhaps you disagree? Finally I said that it was probably pointless to try to compare the two anyway, which is tHe absolute opposite of trying to cause an argument isn't it? (unlike labelling people as trolls when they aren't trolling, which is, of course, trolling)