Life with a dog agressive dog...

Molly41

gettingready wrote: »

Jesussssssssssssssssssss Molly please do read what I wrote for what it is and do not twist what I am saying/typing into what it is not.

It is a 2 way issue - my dog is on a lead so call your off if it is running towards mine. Simple like that.

And there is no "he is only saying hello/he only wants to play" bull.... - my dog is on a lead, keep your away from mine. I am being responsible for my dog - be responsibe for yours. End off.

My dog plays with all neighbours kids in the garden - from babies to teenagers and any kids we ever meet love her. Same with people. She has issues with SOME dogs and I have major isuues with SOME owners - and by what/how you describe above, you could possibly be one of them "friendly hello". Yeah rite - MY dog is on a lead, MY dog does not want "friendly hello". It is THAT simple.

We keep our dogs on their leads at all times under control so please do not put me into the same category you scathingly describe. I do this because I know that my dogs will snap if approached and being terriers I also do not trust their recall if they should suddenly spy a rabbit or cat. As an owner I would be very frightened by a big dog like yours lunging towards another dog and merely set this out in my previous post and wanted to highlight the consequences. Obviously this has touched a raw nerve with you :mad:

Shepherd1

Molly41 wrote: »

We keep our dogs on their leads at all times under control so please do not put me into the same category you scathingly describe. I do this because I know that my dogs will snap if approached and being terriers I also do not trust their recall if they should suddenly spy a rabbit or cat. As an owner I would be very frightened by a big dog like yours lunging towards another dog and merely set this out in my previous post and wanted to highlight the consequences. Obviously this has touched a raw nerve with you :mad:

As you have said your dogs snap, so are your dogs muzzled?

Molly41

One is muzzled.

lostinrates

gettingready wrote: »

Jesussssssssssssssssssss Molly please do read what I wrote for what it is and do not twist what I am saying/typing into what it is not.

It is a 2 way issue - my dog is on a lead so call your off if it is running towards mine. Simple like that.

And there is no "he is only saying hello/he only wants to play" bull.... - my dog is on a lead, keep your away from mine. I am being responsible for my dog - be responsibe for yours. End off.

My dog plays with all neighbours kids in the garden - from babies to teenagers and any kids we ever meet love her. Same with people. She has issues with SOME dogs and I have major isuues with SOME owners - and by what/how you describe above, you could possibly be one of them "friendly hello". Yeah rite - MY dog is on a lead, MY dog does not want "friendly hello". It is THAT simple.

My dogs 'get' that dogs on a lead are not allowed or do not want to play, but only realise this from about twenty thirty feet away. They go this distance and then adopt 'inviting to play posture, and leave, or look wstfully, if the dog is on a lead, does nopt want to play. If the dog shows negative body langauge they leave immeadiately.

They are well socialised dogs well used to dog behaviour and NEVER leap on dogs on leads, and twenty feet away might be nervewracking for a dog walker on leas, but we don't always know who is ona lead till we see them. If i can see a dog is on a lead while the dogs are further out ofCOURSe i call them back.

However, i have still been shouted at more than once. Often, sadly, by dogs who show wanting to play behaviour and whose owners won't let them.

I hae also been told 'your dog is going to get in teuble one day as gs/rotties/staffies get walked up here'. The only dog that has ever attacked my dog was a terrier, that came through the fence at home and attacked them.


It can also be stressful wanting to provide social, well adjusted dogs with their social needs.

Mara69

Molly41 wrote: »

my dogs will snap

Molly41 wrote: »

One is muzzled.

Why only one? You have clearly said that your dogs (plural) will snap. So why is only one muzzled?

catkins

Hardupandfedup wrote: »

I do agree with you about other dogs running up to say hello is very annoying, however, the fact is that if your dog bites another dog on lead or off you will be held responsible.

Is that the law? If so, I think it is very unfair. If a dog is on a lead and another runs up to it and the dog on lead bites it should not be held responsible. Dog owners should have control of their dogs and not allow them to run up to other dogs on lead. A lot of dogs do not like dogs running up to them when on lead - should they all be muzzled?

I only muzzled mine when he was offlead or rarely on lead. When I was walking him along the street why should I have had him muzzled with all the negative comments and crossing over the road to avoid us? I don't think dogs should be off lead when walking on the pavement anyway

mrs_sparrow

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/InYourHome/AnimalsAndPets/Dogs/DG_180008

I think what will come into play is that even if your dog is on a lead, it should have been muzzled if it was aggressive to other dogs and so you would be held responsible.

I was at the vet the other day and another woman was paying for someone elses treatment after her dog had attacked another. She was paying the first £200 and said she would call back and pay the rest later and as you do not have much money it is a huge risk to take. In my opinion. You might well argue that the dog approached yours but the accident could have been avoided with a muzzle as you knew of the problem and that is how the court will see it. Of course, they will take the dog and test it so if it is shown to be unpredicatable, you'd have no chance and it would be destroyed which would be devastating for you.

I have to say that I have 2 dogs that are always walked on lead because one will just run home or to the car if let off and the other is too friendly and jumps up and mouths - as I have staffies this leads to obvious problems and so they are walked on leads, even though they are not dangerous. That is my responsibility as an owner. People do not want my dog jumping up them (however, that does not seem to stop owners of smaller dogs whose dogs do that). They are sociable with dogs and people and very friendly - unless being barked at by another dog, they then get very nervous and will bark and snarl back and I have 2 wound up dogs for the next 5 minutes.

As a dog walker I find it really intimidating being lunged at by any dog - let alone a huge GSD. We had this the other day with a Ridgeback we encountered which despite us being on the other side of the road, was trying to get at my 2 who were minding their own business - the minute that dog started barking and snarling it started mine off. This behaviour from other peoples dogs is not fun for other dog walkers. It's also very unnerving when you can see someone straining to hold back a large dog.

While you may feel that you have your dog under control, maybe other people around you feel intimidated and scared by your dogs behaviour, and the fact that this huge big dog is clearly a possible danger, and it only takes a comment to the dog warden or a policeman and then the dogs behaviour will be in question and they could enforce the DDA.

For the sake of wearing a muzzle either on or off lead, it has to be worth it for everyone's peace of mind. Your dog is unpredictable - I think that is worse than a dog that only wants to get at labradors or small fluffy white dogs as you never know when your dog is going to lunge.

gettingready

mrs_sparrow wrote: »

While you may feel that you have your dog under control, maybe other people around you feel intimidated and scared by your dogs behaviour,

My dog IS under control and if anyone feels like above - they are wellcome NOT to walk STRAIGHT at us with their out of control dogs in a massive open space/woods then if they are so concerned - my lead is visible from quite far away

other is too friendly and jumps up and mouths

That is not "friendly" - that is badly behaved

rising_from_the_ashes

As the owner of one of the run up and want to play dogs (we're working on it!) - as I've said before, she only gets off lead under very strict conditions and is called back / put on if we see another dog - whether it's on a lead or not.

I just wished it worked both ways - last night, out with Maisie in the woods, saw a couple with 3 dogs approaching so put her back on the lead. Now - surely this should've made them think ..... "oh maybe we better put ours on leads" but nope! All 3 of them were jumping all over her - now luckily she does really just want to play so I let her off and they had a great time but if she had been dog aggressive then heaven knows what would've happened.

Some people just don't have any common sense!

gettingready

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/InYourHome/AnimalsAndPets/Dogs/DG_180008

totao c r a p - where is the definition of dog being under control?

and what exactly does this mean:

What is 'out of control'?

Your dog is dangerously out of control if it:

• injures a person, or
• behaves in a way that makes a person worried it might injure them - even if it's the dog owner's own home or garden

If you use your dog to injure someone you could be charged with 'malicious wounding'. The maximum penalty for this is five years in prison.

the bold bit - on that basis.. all shoppers should be arrested on the basis that shop keepers MAY worry they MAY steal from them, all men should be arrested on the basis that some woman MAY THINK they MAY rape here etc etc

total nonsese in wording