older children in pushchairs!

AvadaKedavra

poet123 wrote: »

Really, where have you seen these cases? How long does the average child have a dummy? Probably 2/3 years max? Speech and Language therapists don't agree that dummies cause such issues, and many often encourage the use of them so I would be interested to know where you have seen these children and how you reached the conclusion that it was the dummy which caused their issues.

This is from an article by a SLP;

"Now let’s tackle pacifiers. For some toddlers, pacifiers are not an issue since they never took one in the first place or easily gave it up as an infant. Sometimes not taking a pacifier hasn’t necessarily been a good thing either, since a child may not have found a successful way to self-soothe. Sucking is a very good way to regulate an out-of-control infant and toddler.
Many babies find their thumbs during this phase. While some parents and even experts prefer this habit, I think it’s a lot more difficult to kick, even for 6 and 7 year olds, because you can never truly get rid of it.
For some babies and toddlers (and their parents!), pacifiers are essential and even recommended. For babies with significant oral motor issues, learning to suck a pacifier and keep it in their mouths is a milestone. For cranky babies and toddlers with sensory integration differences, using a pacifier to soothe is the only thing that helps them calm.
Most children should be able to give up the pacifier between age 2 1/2 to 3, or at least relegate this for sleeping or calming only. Walking around all day with a pacifier in your mouth is not recommended as kids move closer to age 3, but not because it keeps you from talking. It makes you look like a big ol’ baby, but that’s another issue in and of itself, and one I’m not going to tackle today!
I think it’s a myth that pacifiers prevent children from talking. Most kids try to talk with it in their mouths and then take it out if their parents insist that they don’t understand them."

Thanks good read, it was my cousin who teethed very early and her adult teeth were effected by her dummy also her speech although im sure this is not the case for all children. As i say my friend tells me she gives her 5 year old the dummy to keep him quiet so that i disagree with.

*zippy*

As a parent you decide whats important to you in raising your children and adapt as you go, everyone is different and I don't think you can judge if every decision was the right one until they are grown up. Using a dummy or buggy longer than you decided was right for your family is not going to make a huge impact.

AvadaKedavra

*zippy* wrote: »

As a parent you decide whats important to you in raising your children and adapt as you go, everyone is different and I don't think you can judge if every decision was the right one until they are grown up. Using a dummy or buggy longer than you decided was right for your family is not going to make a huge impact.

Yes some people may grow up and be fine others maay not, But some kids of friends I know are treated like babies and it makes me cringe just me though and of course fair play if anyone disagrees.

DevilsAdvocate1

AvadaKedavra wrote: »

older children in pushchairs!

Sorry I didnt know which sub section this would fall within.

Its just I have a 4 year old and a 2 month old, and my 4 year old was out of her pushchair at 2 years old when it broke and we didnt bother replacing it. Of course everyone is entitled to place kids in pushchairs at an age when they can walk, It just makes me cringe, the icing on the cake is when the kid has a dummy in their gob. Is it just me who has this feeling? :mad:

How do you know that the child is 4 and not 2? I run a parent and toddler group and sometimes we have a child attend who is huge for their age. There is a little girl who comes at the moment. She is 2 (she is not three until February next year). She is very tall for her age and is similar in height to 4 year olds. The mum was talking to me today because she is having problems with judgemental strangers passing comments about Jessies behaviour.

Basically, strangers are looking at her and telling her mum that her daughter is naughty. She is not naughty, she is acting like a 2 year old because that is what she is. People looking at her are assuming that she is much older.

Also, a friend's son was very ill when he was 6. When he was ready to return to school, she was advised by the doctor to get a pushchair so her son could rest on the walk to and from school. She used this for around 6 months. I can't remember what the illness was but he was in hospital for quite a while. He is now 14, is skinny and very sporty, so your judgement that nothing good would come of it is wrong.

I think you need a hobby.

*zippy*

Yes we can agree to disagree I just think you could pick faults with every parent you ever met, it's just not a nice thing to do and horrible when you are on the other end of it.

AvadaKedavra

DevilsAdvocate1 wrote: »

How do you know that the child is 4 and not 2? I run a parent and toddler group and sometimes we have a child attend who is huge for their age. There is a little girl who comes at the moment. She is 2 (she is not three until February next year). She is very tall for her age and is similar in height to 4 year olds. The mum was talking to me today because she is having problems with judgemental strangers passing comments about Jessies behaviour.

Basically, strangers are looking at her and telling her mum that her daughter is naughty. She is not naughty, she is acting like a 2 year old because that is what she is. People looking at her are assuming that she is much older.

Also, a friend's son was very ill when he was 6. When he was ready to return to school, she was advised by the doctor to get a pushchair so her son could rest on the walk to and from school. She used this for around 6 months. I can't remember what the illness was but he was in hospital for quite a while. He is now 14, is skinny and very sporty, so your judgement that nothing good would come of it is wrong.

I think you need a hobby.

One instance was when a mum was shouting at her child who was five as she actually said act your age your five !!!!!!, which was ironic as she had a dummy in his gob and was pushing him around in a pushchair, but hey you might find that situation normal, i felt bad for the kid.

*zippy* wrote: »

Yes we can agree to disagree I just think you could pick faults with every parent you ever met, it's just not a nice thing to do and horrible when you are on the other end of it.

For me some people say you are a good dad, to which i say thanks but at the end of the day good or bad opinions of my parenting skills are none of my concern, what really matters is when my kids tell me im a good dad.

*zippy*

Ok last post as think you are just having a laugh tbh.

Swearing at a child is completely different than your original comments on passing judgement on children in pushchairs over 2yrs. You don't care about others opinions on your parenting skills so why waste your energy worrying about others when they couldn't care less about your opinion either.

I love you feel you can be a smug parent when you have a four year old and a baby, come back in 16 years....

AvadaKedavra

*zippy* wrote: »

Ok last post as think you are just having a laugh tbh.

Swearing at a child is completely different than your original comments on passing judgement on children in pushchairs over 2yrs. You don't care about others opinions on your parenting skills so why waste your energy worrying about others when they couldn't care less about your opinion either.

I love you feel you can be a smug parent when you have a four year old and a baby, come back in 16 years....

No im not why would you say that? This actually happened.

I wasnt making a point of the swearing, it was the fact thats how i knew the kids age.

Smug? I am not smug at all, I fail to see how you have drawn that conclusion

Hintza

If you never give children dummies then they never miss them. If they suck their thumb then admonish them. Just another bad habit that pandering parents encourage.

AvadaKedavra

Hintza wrote: »

If you never give children dummies then they never miss them. If they suck their thumb then admonish them. Just another bad habit that pandering parents encourage.

At the end of the day, My thoughts are PARENTS who place dummies in their kids mouths to shut them up, which I know for a fact happens I see it frequently in town where I live, especially IF they are older ie 4 or 5 in my view is quite sad, the same as also placing children who want to walk but their parents lock them in their pushchairs at an older age IF that is the case is wrong in my view. I know this goes on, however I know there are kids who need to go in pushchairs as they may have a disability, or illness. Perhaps they had walked all day and then they just go in the pushchair for a short time, and theres me assuming their parents are being unfair, Hands up I admit I should not assume all childrens parents are being unfair or lazy, As is in some cases their children need to be in pushchairs.

However, sometimes I see situations where I know the child's age and situation as they go to my kids school, and it makes me feel bad for the kid. So I do not mind what other parents think of me, they like me, are entitled to their views. Hope I have not offended anyone that was not my intention, I think the name is 'Zippy' who posted above seemed a bit :mad: last night so I hope I have not upset her/ Him.